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1/2T to 3/4T Conversion Questions

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by joe dirt, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. joe dirt

    joe dirt Registered Member

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    My cousin wants to swap the axles from his rustbucket 1984 Chevy K20 into a pretty nice 1986 Chevy K10 he just bought. The 3/4T has a D44 front and a 9.5 SF 14-bolt rear. The 1/2T has D44 front and 10-bolt rear. Both trucks are regular cab long beds and have stock suspension components, drivelines and auto trannys, although I am not sure which auto trannys they have or which T-Case they have.

    Can we swap springs as well? I think that would make the job a lot easier overall. I don't know if the springs are the same length/width since he hasn't brought the K10 home yet. Also, will the 1/2T truck driveshaft u-joints mate up with the 3/4T pinions?

    Thanks for any advice.
     
  2. loafer

    loafer 1/2 ton status

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    Everything should bolt right up as far as leaf springs and axles go. The 3/4 ton rear will be 3" wider than the 1/2 ton. I think think the 3/4 ton front will also be wider by about 2" (someone else will know this for sure)

    The rear yokes take different size u-joints. you can buy the conversion u-joint or you can swap the yoke from the 10 to the 14bolt sf. They are both 30-spline pinions, and both yokes have the same mounting depths. You'll just need to swap the seal-pretector-flange-thingy from the 14 bolt sf yoke to the 10 bolt yoke. If you do this you don't have to use a special U-joint.
     
  3. divorced

    divorced 3/4 ton status

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    Are you sure both the '84 and '86 have a dana 44 front? Chevy stopped using the Dana 44 around 1979 and started using the 10 bolt. First pic is a 10 bolt, the second is a Dana 44. The 44 cover has flat sides, the 10 bolt is all round.
     
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    Fubeca 1/2 ton status

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    The axles will swap directly no need to do anything with the springs and the axles are the same width. The conversion u-joint is easy but if he has the same t-cases you can just swap the whole driveshaft even easier.
     
  5. joe dirt

    joe dirt Registered Member

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    Divorced, I am not for sure about the D44's. A guy down the road looked at them and said they were D44's. I don't know. I'm not that good at identifying front axles. Rears are easier to ID. I was looking for some 4.10 gears for my truck's front axle and the same guy told me that my 1985 K20 has a "corporate D44" whatever that is. I know the rear is a 9.5 SF 14bolt. I can't access the pictures you posted, not enough member priveleges in my account (free)

    Thanks for all the info, might tear into it this weekend, weather permitting.
     
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    divorced 3/4 ton status

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    He doesn't know for sure what he is telling you if he says "corporate D44". The choices are "corporate 10 bolt" or "Dana 44". If you email me at the addy below I can send you pics, or do a Google image search for "10 bolt" or "Dana 44", you should find what you need.
     
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    fatbob 1/2 ton status

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    Beware the Easy way. It might look easier to take out 4 bolts on the springs, than the 8 nuts on the u-bolts, but those bolts get rusted to the sleeve in the springeyes. If the spring bushings look good, I would just swap axles, if not, get a torch and be prepared to work.:grin:
     
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    AkMudr 1/2 ton status

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    the 3/4ton is 2 inches wider, but that is in the hub itself, each is 1" wider than a 1/2 ton hub..the axle itself is the same width
     
  10. joe dirt

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    Thanks guys. I looked at the axle id chart yesterday and they look like the 10-bolt to me. It's a lot easier on my RAM 2500 since I know that it has a D80 rear and a D60 front. Just curious, but will the u-bolts be reusable? In the past, I've always found them to be kinda "sprung" which make them difficult, if not impossible, to get back into the top plate.
     
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    You are not "supposed" to reuse u-bolts. I reuse mine all the time though. I smash them back closed in a vise so they will go through the spring plates.
     

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