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1 Ton D60 + 14BFF conv.

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by landcrusher, Feb 26, 2004.

  1. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    Looking at the possibility of swapping in a 1 TON D60 and a 14 Bolt FF on my '84 Sub.

    I currently have a 10B front and 14B SF rear.

    What do I gotta do to get this done? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
     
  2. SF87K5

    SF87K5 1/2 ton status

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    If you get a 1 ton 14 bolt FF all you wouild need to do is move the spring perches. I am not sure which way or how far you will need to move the perches on the 14B. If you find a 14B FF out of a 3/4 ton, it will be a direct bolt in. The D60 is a direct bolt in. I hope this helps you out. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  3. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    The D60 is a direct bolt in? Does this include the caliper fittings, shock mounts, and driveshaft hookup?
     
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    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    [ QUOTE ]
    The D60 is a direct bolt in? Does this include the caliper fittings, shock mounts, and driveshaft hookup?

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    Yes...

    Rene
     
  5. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    Sweeeeet! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

    What about the 14B FF? Does the driveshaft bolt up? Brake fittings? Shock mounts?
     
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    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    [ QUOTE ]
    What about the 14B FF? Does the driveshaft bolt up? Brake fittings? Shock mounts?

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    You need a cinversion u-joint http://coloradok5.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/548638/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1
    The Napa PN 447 is a 1330-1350 combo joint used in going from a 10 bolt to a 14 bolt.
    The Napa PN 348 is a 1310-1350 combo joint used when going from 12 bolt to 14 bolt.
    Courtesy of muddytazz post at above.

    I know when my buddy used a 1970's 2wd drive axle all shock mounts etc still worked fine. If the brake lines dont match the ends that go into your hose, you could cut and re-flare on the end and your fittings can be used. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
  7. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    Can't see post link.

    What about a 14 bolt SF to a 14 bolt FF?

    I have the large 13" brakes on the SF now, so I'm hoping the FF brakes are the same. ...???
     
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    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    Brakes are different as the 14bsf is like a 10 bolt kinda and 14bff has different hub arrangement. I believe the 14bsf u-joint is same size as 10 bolt. If not someone should reply to ya otherwise. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    TopOff 1/2 ton status

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    The 14SF 3/4 ton version is a 1 ton (1350) U-joint.
     
  10. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    The 14SF 3/4 ton version is a 1 ton (1350) U-joint.

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    If I'm understanding correctly; my 14B SF 3/4 ton driveshaft should then bolt right up to the 1 ton FF!?
     
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    Cool, glad you knew that , I wasn't sure. I saw a 14bsf that took 10 bolt u-joint once. So now I know too /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
  12. landcrusher

    landcrusher Registered Member

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    What about spring plates and U-bolts?
    Are these the same from a 10b to a D60
    & a 14b SF to a 14b FF? Gotta know if I need to pick these up as well.

    The direct bolt in for the D60 seem too good to be true. There has to be something I'm going to get stuck on!
     
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    Okiemuddog 1/2 ton status

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    The spring plates for the D60 are totally different from the 10B, and you D60 will also need new ubolts.
     
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    bluejeep 1/2 ton status

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    The pinion snout is also much longer on the D60, but this is often times offset by a lift.
     
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    landcrusher Registered Member

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    Okay; new pring plates and U-bolts for the 60.

    What about the 14 SF to FF. Are the axle tubes the same size? Same U-bolt & plates?

    I have a 6" lift now and my double Cardan already clacks the T/C crossmember. The longer D60 snout sounds like it will cause more problems. $#!T /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    landcrusher Registered Member

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    Another question:
    Is the track width different using 1 Ton axles from 3/4 Ton.

    It also seem that the 14b FF shock mounts are located differently. I'd have to move the spring perches anyway, so thats just another step.
     

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