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????????? 14 bolt front axle ???????????

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Z3PR, Aug 11, 2002.

  1. Z3PR

    Z3PR Banned

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    Some parts counter jocky told me I should put a 14 bolt front axle in my Blazer. /forums/images/icons/confused.gif I've never heard of one. /forums/images/icons/confused.gif Is there such a beast ?????? /forums/images/icons/confused.gif /forums/images/icons/confused.gif /forums/images/icons/confused.gif
     
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    No such thing unless you have one custom made.

    Wagoner Machine Shop in Oklahoma makes them. They have a pic up on their site.

    Check out wagonermachine.com to see the pics. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
     
  3. Z3PR

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    I'll be looking into that. Might be worth doing. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif
     
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    14FF front axle = high $$$$$ /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
     
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    Worth it? D60 might make more sense.
     
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    The only benefit is the stronger ring gear. Is it worth it? To some. But not to all.

    Neat gadget axle though.

    Ken H.
     
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    The only people I have heard of needing a 14 bolt front are the high horsepower mud boggers. They can wipe out a D60 Ring and Pinion because their wheels are for the most part always straight. If your wheels are turned the joint will give before the R&P. Nice conversation piece though
     
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    </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
    Worth it? D60 might make more sense.

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    Probably not since the front axle probably sees approximately 10 - 15% use when the rear is used 100%, depending on how much off roading the driver takes the truck out.

    Sure the custom-made 14FF front would be worth it to those who do more hard core and serious off roading, mainly like the rocks or mud, but not for a daily driver or anything that you need to drive every now and then. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif That's what the D60 is for.
     
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    Custom front 14bff usually use Dana 60 outers anyway, so why bother?
     
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    I can see the need for a heavier front for some situations, but why a 14 bolt bolt over say a dana 80 front? Parts would be more rare but locker and gearing options are much more available than the 14 bolt.
     
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    Custom front 14bff usually use Dana 60 outers anyway, so why bother?

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    EXACTLY!! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
     
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    well, some peeps think that if u convert a d60 to 35 spline throughout and use beefy-trick u-joints that your ring/locker etc may become the weak link in the system. If u had a 14b or d70 (or whatever) center, that problem is solved... and the weak point is once again the u-joint. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif errr or something like that, lol!

    J
     
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    Wonder what the costs would compare to just getting a Rockwell. By the time you take a 14 bolt or similer and make it a front end, a Rockwell might be cost effective. That is if you have a problem with trashing the ring and pinion on the D60.
     
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    rockwells rock... but only having 6.92 (or is it 6.72?) as a gear ratio could be annoying on a daily driver...

    J
     
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    Not too bad if your sitting on 44's... /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
    Sounds like a good excuse for the wife as to why you need such "big tires". hehe...
     
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    My buddy runs Rockwells on one of his trucks.

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    He almost regrets it but not quite. We both love to mud race and mud bog but the rules around here exclude him and his setup. He repainted it and now drives in Parades. We also have a small reservoir that the local mudders play in. He cant even go out there. He sinks like a rock and we all drive circles around him. He only uses it a few times a year.
     
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    6.72 is the ratio. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

    Wouldn't be bad if the tires are 48" tall. /forums/images/icons/cool.gif
     
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    6.72... its like having a doubler... but not! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif man, with a doubler... np205 3:1 kit, 2.5t rockwells, and a manual trans you would have a pretty swizeet crawl ratio! LOL! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
     
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    Yep, you sure would! /forums/images/icons/cool.gif
     
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    Re: 14 Bolt FF axles front and rear
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    Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:45:04 EDT
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    Cyclura98@aol.com
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    Z3PR@NETSCAPE.NET

    A Corp. 14 front end will probably not work in a Blazer front end due to the offset of the pinion in a passenger side application. A
    Corp. 14 rear end with 4.56 gears, a Detroit Locker, and disc brakes runs $1700.00. An open front end complete w/shave and cover
    would run about $7000.00. Please let me know if you have anymore questions.

    Casey

    W.M.S.
     

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