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14bolt R&P install help Update w/ new pics

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by desertrat67, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. desertrat67

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    See next page for new pics.

    Here is my patterns right now. The Backlash is .009. The shims I have are not marked so I do not know the thickness I have in right now, but I have the two thickest shims that came with the install kit(Yukon Master from randy's)installed. Let me know if stacking shims is wrong in this case and what your opinions are on the pattern, please.

    ryan

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    I would take .010" out of the shim pack. It sounds like you don't have any calipers so just take a shim out, I guess (its tough to describe how thick .010" is)
     
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    That has to be the worst pattern I have ever seen.

    That aside, you need to remove at least .012. Since you on;t have calipers just remove one of the thick shims you have and try again.

    On a positive note.......the pictures you took are very good. Thank you for making it a little easier to read the pattern.:waytogo:
     
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    so the pinion needs to go in farther? I thought that if the contact was high on the face more shim was needed? What about the backlash? Increase(move tring away from pinion)?
     
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    It is very hard to read BL from the pattern. Most can not do it and those that can are usually wrong.
    I generally won't even try to guess.

    Do you not have a dial indicator either??
     
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    the pinion didn't have a number on it and neither do the shims I recieved. I know this is a horrible pattern, that is why I came here instead of making it worse. I knew you guys would steer me in the write direction. i'll make sure all pics are this quality. I want this done right.
     
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    I do have a dial indicator. didn't think of using that on the shims. thanks. Heading for dinner so I will probably not do anymore tonight. I will post again tomorroow about 3 central for those that wish to help me.

    thanks,
    ryan
     
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    I'll read all the patterns you care to post up. That is what I'm here for...

    I re-read your firts post where you said the BL was at .009. That is fine.
     
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    You can measure the shims with a dial indicator if you have a nice clean steel plate to use with your mag base.
    Set the DI to read .010 at rest then slide a shim under it and subtract .010 from the reading.
     
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    Never mond, I see what you were saying about the indicator. I have the backlash set propperly and per the install instructions(3-12 acceptable, 5-8 recommended)at 9 right now.
     
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    Will do for the shims. Thanks again
     
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    I decided to start fresh since I needed to take out the shims and measure them any way. The pics in post #1 are with a 22 and 18 shim. here is with no shim and .007 backlash.

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    Either you need more shims or need to run a better pattern. It is real hard to read even though the pic is very clear.
    Are you applying resistance to the carrier?
     
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    here is .0075 BL and .013 shim

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    No, I was trying to run the pinion by hand with as much force as I could apply. I'll go run the new one again with a bit of pressure applied.
     
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    redone w/pressure applied .0075 BL and .013 shim

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    To get the best pattern I usually turn the pinion with my cordless drill at a constant speed. At the same time use something to put some force on the carrier trying to stop it from rotating.
     
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    i'll try again, there really isn't much difference is there? be back in a few
     
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    one more try .0075 and .013

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    I'd run it
     

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