Think this'll be the 3d seal on the pass side of that pesky 14FF!!!! I seem to recall /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif something about a sleeve (about the thickness of a gnats' a$$) that may resolve the problem. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Seems it was a tad pricey /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif ($65 a side? with install tool?). My limited search skills, i didn't find it there... Anyone recall this and can point me the right direction? a link maybe? Wes, didn't you mention it once? TIA!