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208...uhg...205?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by jekbrown, Jun 18, 2001.

  1. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    I have a np208 x-case and since I would like to get a sweet set of custom CV high-angle driveshafts...and for them need a fixed yoke equipped x-case...I was wondering how much time/money/effort/parts and what I would need to use a 205 on my truck? Right now I have a 350 engine and 700R4 slush box. Any potential drawbacks to the conversion?

    Any info appreciated, thanks!

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  2. Emmettology 101

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    You would need a new output shaft and adapter plate.

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  3. BIGJ

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    Do a search. This was covered in a post last week.

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  4. 84_Chevy_K10

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    Yes, you lose the low range that the NP 208 has that is significantly lower than the NP 205.

    Why can't you have a CV type shaft with a slip yoke transfer case? I've heard if it done before even with the slip yoke, but never actually seen one. Why do you guys say you need a fixed output 'case to have a CV joint?

    Tim
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  5. CaptCrunch

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    Ok guys...k10. You can have a CV w/ a slip yoke and be just fine. I talked to Jesse when I was looking into them and he said he "wasn't thrilled" about making one... Obviously the slip yokes have strength issues w/ bib blocks and nasty gears, lockers, big tires, etc. But I wasn't gonno go shell out for a 205 then shell out more to redo the tailshaft on the tranny... or pay for a conversion kit on the 208. So I called a guy that made driveshafts for some of my race cars who also makes awsome 4x4 shafts and has been advertising top the 4x4 market.. Tom Wood's. It was shipped to my door for $325 bucks and is awsome. No problems what so ever! BTW I have a 6" lift plus 2 extra inches in the rear. Here are some pics of it I did for another member...

    http://community.webshots.com/photo/11399224/15691154yDTDHoEyGq
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/11399224/15691535caSLGfQQze

    BTW... I don't wanna take anything away from Jess... his stuff looks awsome and have heard lots of great things... This is just the route I have chosen to go for now because I don't abuse my truck as much as some do... mostly trails and mud rather then rocks... heck I don't even have a locker yet [​IMG]

    -Mikey
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  6. CaptCrunch

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    Ok guys...k10. You can have a CV w/ a slip yoke and be just fine. I talked to Jesse when I was looking into them and he said he "wasn't thrilled" about making one... Obviously the slip yokes have strength issues w/ bib blocks and nasty gears, lockers, big tires, etc. But I wasn't gonno go shell out for a 205 then shell out more to redo the tailshaft on the tranny... or pay for a conversion kit on the 208. So I called a guy that made driveshafts for some of my race cars who also makes awsome 4x4 shafts and has been advertising top the 4x4 market.. Tom Wood's. It was shipped to my door for $325 bucks and is awsome. No problems what so ever! BTW I have a 6" lift plus 2 extra inches in the rear. Here are some pics of it I did for another member...

    http://community.webshots.com/photo/11399224/15691154yDTDHoEyGq
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/11399224/15691535caSLGfQQze

    BTW... I don't wanna take anything away from Jess... his stuff looks awsome and have heard lots of great things... This is just the route I have chosen to go for now because I don't abuse my truck as much as some do... mostly trails and mud rather then rocks... heck I don't even have a locker yet [​IMG]

    -Mikey
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  7. 84_Chevy_K10

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    How much did that shaft cost? I MUST have one. I want to do a shackle flip and really make my truck huge. Haven't decided what to do about the front yet.

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     
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    What angle shim did you run with to get it pointing at the case? Boss and I were talking about this last nite in the chat room. Thank you soooooooo much for bring this info to us.
     
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    Good info & pics.
    Does anyone know where to get the solid kit & how much to convert the 208? I'm going 14FF and would rather go solid if its not too much $$$

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    BTW are you using a spacer or new unit for the front driveshaft?
     
  11. CaptCrunch

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    Shaft was $325... shipped to my door.

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    Just got off the phone with TROY at Tom Woods. He really knows his stuff. The shaft like stated berfore is $325. The front shaft depending on how you want starts at $265 and goes up. I was looking into the premium shaft including a Spicer 13xx series joint so I wouldnt have to grind the yoke for clearance. My application is an NP208 slip-yoke style with 6" suspension lift. This package was around the same price as the rear shaft.
     
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    I'm almost positive I remember Boss saying he went springs all round right? Or did he do the shakle flip? The flip is suppost to flip the pinion up anyways...

    Mine has blocks in the rear for right now [​IMG]. The blocks are Superlifts and are angled roughly about 4 degrees. I then added the 4 degree shim included for my front springs (which I'm not gonna use) and added that in... So overall I would guess at about 8 degrees. I have heard and talked to numerous guys here running them and usually the 6 degree shims just aren't enough. Unless anyone else has seen shims available larger then 6 degrees (I know I haven't) You'll probably need to find someone to custom make a set. That is my plan as soon as I get the $$$ to get some rear springs. Maybe make a post on the board if you can't find something local... Numerous fabricators on here.

    I am planning to run a 1" Superlift spacer... haven't been able to find out how it is or even mess w/ angles and stuff up front cause the yoke off the D44 front is all messsed up and am trying to locate one.

    OH yeah... BTW... I'm running 5.5" BDS up front and 5" supperlift Blocks in the rear w/ 2 " of ORD zero-rate add-a- leafs. Still have rear sag too... man those BDS springs are huge... Not a happy camper about my rear setup, but it is movable atleast till I get springs. Really not that bad of wheel hope as long as I don't break the tire loose...

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    Me too. Boss is running the ord shackle flip. Thanks for the info on the rear setup. I know exactly where to get a yoke here. Are all D44 yokes the same?
     
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    Yup I have done business since before Tom left Performance ditributor. It's top notch IMO.The yokes he uses are a lot beefer then the stock ones too. I asked on the same front setup incase I have issues w/ my frt one that the spacer can't handle. The Bumpersticker you get's Kicks butt too [​IMG].

    All the later model d44 have the same yoke that attaches to the frt u-jt off the d-shaft. The thread for the straps and that have been drill oput and messed up... I found a guy who might have one for $30 + shipping... sad thing is I can get them for $15 outta the yard here but they are all gone [​IMG]. If you don't mind looking into what one would cost/if you can get one that would be great. Never know if the other guy has one forsure.

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    Not a problem. I just have to get the time to go out there and take them off.
     
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    Well I'd hate to waste your time and that going out there and fighting them so I'll just give you a shout if I haven't heard from this fellow in a few days... Thanks a lot!


    -Mikey
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    Mikey, I have a question. Does the woody shaft come with the new slip yoke? Or do you have to install your old one?
    I was preaching against this of shaft earlier but now am considering it. The only thing Im worried about is that I need to get rid of the preverbial clunk notrious with the 241 and 208's. I think we can cram grease in there till we turn blue in the face but I think a new yoke with new splines on it would fix the problem as long as the slpines on the output shaft are still good. Give me some info. Thanks bro.
    P.S. Does tom have a website?

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    Heck ya you get hooked up w/ a new heavy duty yoke... it is thicker and fits MUCH tighter on the output shaft. No grease needed [​IMG]. I pretty much guarntee you'll be heappy w/ it... the good yoke and heavy duty greasable spicer u-jt's are included and installed. Pakaging of the shaft was also excellent. BTW... you might want to inquire about a 208 tailshaft conversion kit and how his status is on one. I know he sells some for Jeep cases like the 231. His website is

    http://www.geocities.com/milnerlives_2000/blazer.htm
     
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    LOL, capt. I found the site right after I posted my question. I'm still having a problem deciding. I really want to get the 241 SYE from Jesse and then get me a CV shaft. But its all about the money thing. Cause I will also need to get my rear perches re-angled, and unless I learn how to work this new welder I will have to take it somewhere and pay 225 ontop of the 325 for the shaft. But Im scared the slip yoke clunk will come back eventually.

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