I was talking to me bud about stick welders and told him I want to get one. he said a guy at his work had like 5 Miller Thunderbolt 225 amp single phase stick welders and would probably sell one. he said they are cosmetically not in great shape but that work fine. said like 50 maybe 100 bucks would get me one. well he came home with 4 from his buds place, said I could have them all for 75 bucks! they all work, one needs a new plug end, one has the switch thats broke off but the switch still toggles and works. I already put the newest one in the garage before I took these pics, so I dont have a pic of it. it has the plug sockets for the leads in the same location as the old welder with the white face but its a newer machine, newer then the 2 pictured. did not come with a lead or rod clamp, or ground lead and clamp, but my bud gave me a rod clamp and ground clamp. just said I have to get cable. so off to the weld shop tomorrow for cable for the rod and ground clamp. I think I got a smokin deal.