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8000lb winch enouugh??

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by buffcc1, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. buffcc1

    buffcc1 Registered Member

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    Is an 8000lbs winch enough for a K5
     
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    beastofablaze 1/2 ton status

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    General rule is 2x the weight of your rig which is gonna be about 10k or 11k. But my bro ran around with a 2000lb atv winch for his s10 4 door jimmy and it got him out of some mud.... just depends on how hard you get her stuck.
     
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    If its a Ramsey or warn, yes. If its something else, no.

    Actually if you use a snatch block, an 8000 lbs winch can get you out of almost anything...A snatch block doubles the pull rating of your winch.


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    X2...........I've used a 8000 lb Warn for ten years now. Never a problem with some badly stuck situations. I always have a snatch block with me though, just in case.
     
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    The general consensus around here is "No, unless it's a Warn 8274"
     
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    That makes no sense at all.

    An 8000 lbs winch is rated to pull 8000 whether its an 8274 or Ramsey 8000 or a warn m8000. Actually, the 8274 will fry its solenoids quicker than the other two listed due to such a high amp draw at full load...
     
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    if you can afford a bigger winch get it. but 8,000lbs(or 16K if doubled) of pull will still work in most situations.
     
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    It does make sense.

    The 8274 is rated to pull 8000lb at a given minimum line speed, with almost all other 8000lb winches the the 8000lb rating is the stall load.

    So, the 8274 will actually pull over 8000lb and most others will actually pull less than 8000lb.
     
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    I don't agree with your statement.

    All warn and Ramsey have a line speed rating at full load like almost all winches on the market. If a winch stalls at full load, wouldn't the line speed be ZERO?

    The 8274 has a line speed of 6.1 fpm at 450 amps.
    The warn m8000 has a line speed of 8.0 fpm at 435 amps.
    The Ramsey Profile 8000 has a line speed of 8.0 fpm at 420 amps.

    So the 8274 is the slowest at full load and draws the most amps...
     
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    I know I have pulled over 9500 lbs with my 9500Ti. It got hot a few times and had to let it rest, but never stalled:D :bow:

    Super Duty CC long bed Dually 4x4 Powerstroke uphill in the sand. If he tried to help it just dug so he kept it in neutral. I had to bury my K5 to the axles:D
     
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    bigjbear 1 ton status Staff Member Moderator

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    Can someone explain how the 8274 and 8274-50 are both rated at 8k when they both have the same gear-set, but the motor on the -50 has almost twice the HP?

    Oh, and I've got an 8274-50 and an XD9000. I like the 8274 better, but either will pull my Jimmy.
     
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    One small, but very important, detail about this. The pulling force is only doubled if you connect the line back to the truck. Connecting to something else (tree, another truck, etc) will only cause a change of direction.
     
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    Here is what my 8000# warn did:D
    Roz_OB_1_2.jpg

    Roz_OB_1_3.jpg

    If you look in the second pic he is moving forward and I am pulling him to the side to get him back around the corner:D .

    Ira

    Roz_OB_1_2.jpg

    Roz_OB_1_3.jpg
     
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    HP is just work/unit time (1HP = 550 lb-ft/s). So the new motor spins faster, but generates about the same peek torque, therefore generating more HP (the rate at which work is done is faster) This translates into higher line speed however, the max line tension is only dependent on the torque the motor can generate, so it stays about the same.

    Make any sense?


     
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    8274's advantage is that it has fast no load line speed and the motor and rope are isolated so heat isn't an issue when using rope. They have also proved to be very reliable over the years. Good winch. They get used a lot in jungle/expedition comps and stuff from what I have seen... that should tell a perspective buyer something. Comp guys tend not to use junk.

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    Yeah, I forgot to take motor speed into account-I assumed it would not have changed.
     

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