Alright, at the suggestion of one of the mods I'm going to try and get a decent discussion going in a forum other than the garage. I'm planning on tearing down my rig once this summer and once a couple of summers after that. This rendition will include a 52" spring swap which will only kick the axle out .5" farther forward than it sits now. The second round I want to move my axle as far forward as possible and lower the truck as well since at that point there will be no sheetmetal and I can build around the tires. My question is, has anyone ever tried to move the front hangers out to the very front of the frame and up beside the frame to lower the vehicle. You'd end up having the tail end of the spring sitting somewhere under the sloped portion of the frame, but with a little work and custom hanger I think it could be done. The farther you were able to move the rear up, the better the pinion angle would be as well. Caster isn't really a concern of mine since this is a trail only hydro assist rig. However, one other problem this poses is crossover/axle interference. A straight drag link, ORD engine crossmemberg, and one of the Ford van steering arms that Rene dug up could very well solve that issue however. ...and, if 52's are too long and won't sit correctly in the rear, could it be done with stockers or some other spring? 44044's are a definite option as well but the 52's are free. I'm only after 0-2" of lift in the end here and flexibility is nice but it really isn't the be-all end-all of a rig in the terrain I live in. So, what kind of spring setups are people running to move their axle out as far as possible (4"+) and lower the rig at the same time?