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Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by N2-TRUX, Oct 23, 2000.

  1. N2-TRUX

    N2-TRUX 1/2 ton status

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    It's been idle for a while. My Blazer is finally seeing some progress. The good news is, the 4 link and rear bags will be done soon. An Air Ride Tech "Ride Pro" 4 way system(3/8"), with two 317's should get her up and down quick enough. Now I need to decide what to do about a motor. I think my old 305 is ready to relax for a while...
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    Nice! I've got a stupid question (hope you don't mind) '317', is that a type or model of airbag?
    I used to build low bed trailers and all we ever used was Air ride susp. All the Air ride suspensions we did were using the double convoluted bags, is this similar to the 317?
    What is the max/min height for the 317? I've been toying with the idea of doing an air ride suspension on my K5 but I can't find any specs on bags that might work that have a lot of travel.
    The air bags we used quite often were Firestone and with no air were 7 1/2" tall and maxed out were over 20" tall, of course they were also 8 1/2" in diameter. They were made for a 25,000 pound axle (probably a bit of overkill on my Jimmy huh? [​IMG])
    Any suggestions? Links?

    Rene

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    Delayed response...

    That's not a stupid question.The 317 I mentioned is in reference to the compressors I plan to run. The smaller 315's are what most people normally run. One, or sometimes two will do just fine on most systems. The 317's are the big brother to the 315. I will be running two 3 gallon tanks. The larger compressors will allow a faster recovery time.
    Here are links to a couple of sites that can give you more specs than I can-
    <A HREF="http://www.ridetech.com/WELCOME.HTM [url]http://www.olywa.net/rdsrfr/...new">[url]http://www.ridetech.com/WELCOME.HTM [url]http://www.olywa.net/rdsrfr/...oloradok5.com/"]http://n2trux.coloradok5.com/
     
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    Re: Delayed response...

    Thanks for the links, and the response to my questions.

    Rene

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    Glad to help....

    If you have any more questions, throw em out there. I may not know all the answers, but I try to know who does...

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    Re: Glad to help....

    I've got a few more questions. What bags do you use? I was thinking of the sleeve type (the one that rolls over itself) for long travel, I know that is not your main concern, but any tips on size and min/max height? Mt truck probably weighs in at close to 5000 pounds.
    The compressors you guys use, are they electric or belt driven off of the engine?
    I kind of like the idea of ride height adjustability, drop it a little for freeway, raise it up a little on the rocks [​IMG]. Not only that but I tow with my Jimmy and this would make it easier to match height with the trailer and compensate for tongue weight.

    Thanks again.

    Rene

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    Thanks,

    I don't know what happened. They looked normal when I posted them. Oh, well.
    On most applications(2wd) double convulated bags are used up front because they can support a load better, and the tapered sleeve bags are used in the rear because they are capable of greater travel. This is a standard, or average application, if that exists. When it comes to custom applications, like most of these are, the sky is the limit(pun intended). What you are considering can very well work, it's just a matter of engineering the brackets, and mounts...

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    Re: Thanks,

    Well I'm a steel fabricator so making my own mounts and all that won't be a problem.[​IMG]
    Are Firestone bags the best out there for variety of size and styles? Does Goodyear make Air springs as well?
    For my application I guess I would'nt need that much of a compressor as long as I had a holding tank? What kind of compressor would you recommend?
    Is there a tech source for how the air should be routed? I know on the big trailers we used to build they ran air lines from one set of bags down to the next set of bags so when they hit something like a speed bump it would swallow the bump. It would send the excees air from the bag with a high short term load on it to the next set of bags that had almost no load. Am I describing well enough? I guess they do this to prevent the bags from getting overloaded.
    They also used to use a ride height control valve that would keep the trailer at the proper ride height no matter what the load, is anything like this used on a light truck application or do you manually adjust your ride height?

    Rene

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    Nice clear photo what ya hideing under that tarp?
    Mrivan........

    Ford people don't need masks for halloween......
     
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    Shhh, it\'s a secret project...

    Actually it's just being protected from grinding debris, dust, overspray, etc. It's a 67 Nova that the owner wants to turn into a pro-street monster with a huge motor. It got put on hold while my Blazer gets bagged:)

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    Re: Shhh, it\'s a secret project...

    The '67 Chevy II is my someday dream car. I hope to find one to do the same with, Pro Street.


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    They are nice...

    I have always liked the 67 Chevy II body style too. If I were building a car, that is a body style I would have to consider. Maybe some day, when I get done with the Blazer, and the 84 Z-28, but first the 2001 Yukon XL has arrived, and it needs...

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    Re: They are nice...

    Lookin good. What kit did you use for the disk brakes? TSM? Was it hard to install? I assume it would be the same for a 4x4. Thanks.

    Brian
    84k5, 4"Skyjacker lift,33x12.5 Goodyear MT/R, 15x10 Bajas
     
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    Hard? Not at all...

    It's real easy when you have someone do it for you:) I never have time to do my own work anymore, so I had it done. I can tell you the most complicated part about it is pulling your axle shafts, so you can remove the stock backing plates. The most sophisticated tool you will need is a double flaring tool, to get the correct flare on the stock lines after you cut them.
    I don't think they work as good as the same kit I put on my 97 Chev 1/2 ton crew cab though. I think they probably should have an adjustable proportioning valve to help the pressure bias.
    It was one of the more inexpensive kits I found, and it uses OEM parts. The calipers are stock Lincoln Mark VIII units.
    The kit comes from Stainless Steel Brakes-
    http://www.ssbrakes.com/pages/searchCriteria.asp

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    The 20\'s tuck...

    Those 20's are big, but we got them shoved under there. The 4-link is in too...
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