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Affordable, solid state hard-drive!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by dontoe, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. dontoe

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    Gigabyte i-RAM[​IMG] By CPU-zilla
    Category : Storage
    Published by Vijay Anand on Thursday, 6th October, 2005
    Rating : 4.5 out of 5 stars (Most Innovative Product Award)
     
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    Oh wow I bet windows would fly if installed on that thing. I want one. :D
     
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    ehh ... probably not.

    and really the reason noone has made one of those before, is that its only 4 gb max, and it would cost like 160$ to get 4gb on there.


    whereas for 160$ you can get 300-400 gb normal hd's (which will run alot faster than that dated PCI bus)
     
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    I just wanted to point out that your 300-400gb drives can't hold a candle to this drive. The PCI connection is for power only, not for access... Either way, PCI is still hella faster than even SATA and RAID0, which the worlds fastest 3.5" hard disks run on now. SATA's max speed is 150MB/sec, and RAID0 is also 150MB/sec because it's essentially 2 SATA drives side by side accessing half of the data from each drive.. If you could RAID a single drive, it would be like running data at 300MB/sec. The original 32-bit PCI slots in 486 computers ran at 160MB/sec, and now with 48-bit and 64-bit PCI slots available, data speeds of up to 560MB/sec are available for PCI. If I were building a super fast gaming box, I would likely buy this solid state drive, run a pair of 74GB Raptors in RAID0 configuration, and blow all the other guys out of the water with pure access speed. Imaging a computer that can use everything in Windows XP in 56ns (nanoseconds) or less, compared to the fastest hard drive getting in at 500ns minimum access time. Because it runs through SATA, this drive required no drivers, and no external software to work... it is the definition of "Plug-n-Play."
     
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    PCI

    The PCI (Peripheral Component Interconnect) local bus was jointly developed by Intel and other industry leaders in order to bring current and next-generation PCs to new levels of system performance.
    The PCI bus is well-equipped to handle newer, more demanding applications. PCI boasts a 32-bit data path, 33MHz clock speed and a maximum data transfer rate of 132MB/sec. A 64-bit specification exists for future PCI designs, this will double data transfer performance to 264MB/sec.


    SATA 3G (available on most nForce4 based chipsets, Asus for sure anyway)


    SATA 3Gb/s interface offers blazing fast 300-Mbytes/sec interface speed combined withNative Command Queuing (NCQ) for high performance and fast data transfer rates


    So now that we've dispelled the myth of PCI being faster than SATA, lets talk about solid state memory vs normal SATA 3G HDD.

    Granted, using solid state memory does eliminate annoyance of HDD's reliance on RPM for maximum data speeds, and the need to address files on different physical area's of a disk (vs direct access on a RAMdisk), its still not cost effective at all.

    1 36GB Raptor (10k RPM) will provide performance close enough to a solid state disk, and lets face it 4GB vs 36GB for a system drive ... at roughly the same price point ... 4GB is just not an option. Keep in mind that, with only 4GB you HAVE to have some sort of other storage, whereas 36 would be plenty for an AVERAGE desktop system (we not talking about gamers, and file traders here).

    the only possible practical application I can come up with would be windows server boxes, for say a DC or something. but with SCSI's speed and reliablilty these days, even there its only advantage would be to safe guard from mechanical failure of a drive ... but thats what RAID is for. also SAN networks are coming down in cost per GB.
     
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    a few other random thoughts.

    a) SATA drives are all hot swap plug and play
    b) the card has to either communicate via pci or the sata port on the board ... so its still limited to 150MB (since i see nothing about sata 3G in its tech notes)
    c) ... its still a really really silly idea.
     
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    With further thought, it might be useful to host smaller databases that are accessed by multiple users.


    IE a 2 or 3 GB foxpro database powering some propritary app.

    also possibly for a highly active exchange mailstore .... but that pesky 4gb limit hurts it.
     
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    "L" computers offered that a while back. Michael Lieberman(sp) was the guy. The Mach L had all kinds of options like that and 18 gig of ram, freon cooled case cinema grand monitors up to 72" wide etc. etc. I don't know of anyone who actually used one though. I almost plopped down the 6K for one, but I got cold feet when the transaction started having problems.
    The main benefit of the technology is that with the OS and other main things on the HD like that, You can have an instant on function. Make your computer like a light bulb, turn it on and its on. Yes, the price is steep. If you want the latest and greatest, it's gonna cost. Hell put 3 of those in your rig and then a couple of 250 satas for storing your porn, ummmm I mean music.
    You have a blinding fast rig.
     
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    another major problem with this setup. sure its got a 16 hour battery, but what if your ps is away from power for longer than that?


    Personally since I have an LCD ... my rig has travled with me most places (and a few times to dallas texas ... free canuction points if you can figure out why i might have brought my computer to texas)


    better yet, its a notebook style battery, anyone ever unplugged an old notebook and tried to run on battery for a while .... Try explain that you lost the windows install on a server ... or machine ... to the boss cause, the battery died on the card, and you didn't know before trying to move the machine.
     
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