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AGR steering box

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Leadfoot, May 29, 2001.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    I have a non cross-over setup on my rig and wanted to get a better steering box (I.E. AGR), but may in the future do a crossover. My question is: Can I use a 2WD box for my stock setup and then "reclock" the arm when I do the crossover, or not?
     
  2. MaxCrack

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    I just bought the AGR Super Box 2 for two wheel drive (cross over steering) and the Ford dropped pitman arm (sky jacker part # FA300). The pitman arm fits on the AGR box in four different positions at 90 degree intervals, though only two of them will be usefull to you. But I'm not sure if the angle will be correct for the drag link in the non cross over position. I can look at it later and see how different from stock it would be since I have not put them in yet I can just compare to what is in there and give you a some measurements and I just got a digital camera and have been looking for a reason to use it too, so I'll take some picures if you would like.



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  3. thatK30guy

    thatK30guy 1 ton status Premium Member

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    2 and 4wd boxes are both DIFFERENT!!! 2wd box has splines all the way around the shaft with 4 tabs to index the pitman arm.
    The 4wd boxes only have splines approx. half way around the shaft. The other half is smooth, no splines. This shaft also has a notch on the side of it for a bolt. The pitman arm has a hole in it to accept a bolt to go thru it and clamp it together.
    You should email AGR for a picture of each shaft to understand the differences.
    If you are planning on a crossover conversion later, you should just wait until you do it instead of purchasing a box now.
    Just my .02!

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  4. Seventy4Blazer

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    Hey man,
    Let me know how well your sut up works when you get it in if ya could. Grant.


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    but it is on 33's now, with saggy old springs. i am in so cali if ya got any parts for me.
     
  5. DBLAZER

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    I agree with K30, also plan on adding the ORD steering frame brace at the same time, do it right and you will only have to do it once!!! thats my $1.43!!

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  6. MaxCrack

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    OIC. I did not realize that about the 2wd version. I thought it was just like that on the AGR box. (I got mine for cross over steering anyway)

    But why would you want to index the pitman arm on the 2wd version? The index positions are roughly 90 degrees from each other and therefore I'm not really sure how to say what I'm thinking...it just seems kind of pointless to be able to index the pitman arm that far or at all actually, if you can only use the 4wd box for stock steering and the 2wd box for cross over. Just curious.

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  7. thatK30guy

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    You dont want to index the arm for the Chevy applications. You just want the pitman arm to point to the driver when its installed. My guess, they say indexing to make it easier to understand what the pitman arm looks like and how it can be positioned. I am not saying it should be indexed for the best fit, just stating that the splines are all 90 degrees from each other.

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  8. Boss

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    Just to reiterate. The reason why you want a 2WD version gear box to do a crossover steering setup is b/c the shaft rotates left to right. Where as the 4WD version rotates front to back.
    Personally, I'm running through some crazy problems with AGR and am beginning to think I shouldn't have spent my money on them. their service really blows too!!
    Plus, haven't noticed any performance gain in their PS pump or gear box alone. I went with the Rock RAM, and the ram I got was leaking bad, so I have to send it back to them. Now, I'm driving with no steering stab.
    Second, they sent me the wrong gear box for my truck, but the right PSpump for my truck...those hoses don't interchange. Anyhow, long story. Basically what I'm saying is, if you do this, go with the 2WD version and crossover at the same time...and I would suggest finding a 2WD version gear box else where. Remember, 65' to 79' model years uses flare fitting hoses. And 80' to 91' model boxes uses the O-ring fittings. you must get a box within your model year. Keep that in mind when searching. AGR sent me the flare fitting model gear box for my 89' (O-ring fitting) :(!!!
    Boss

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    You don't need the AGR boxes period! I have gone thru all there stuff and realized I could of used the money on other stuff. If you want to do a cross over steering just get a stock 2wd chevy box with a new stock pump and make you own "Rock Ram" for around $300 maybe less. I have some pictures at the web site below. The only difference from the pictures and now is that I changed the cylinder attachment over closer to the steering knuckle to prevent bending my tierod-otherwise this works great. I had Georgia Hydraulics made my cylinder for 1/3 AGR's price.<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tennessee4x4.com/rocketcity/titanic.htm>http://www.tennessee4x4.com/rocketcity/titanic.htm</A>
     
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    Ok, I'm not here to cheer for AGR. I , however, am very happy (at least for now) with the performance of my AGR ram, and YES I did notice a HUGE difference with their box and pump!! Now that being said I did run into some issues, like my gearbox went bad about 9 months into it, and thats about all, oh yah, I needed some different fittings, but thats about it. I have always dealt with Jeff @ AGr and he has gone way out of his way to help me, I mean WAY out of his way. He hand delivered the parts I needed about 1.5 hours out of his way home. Again, I have been talkin with Boss, and his complaints are valid, I just wanted to say that I had good luck . See yall

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    Hey Titanic,

    That's what I said. You don't need the AGR box. I said to go find a 2WD box elsewhere.
    I'm glad DBlazer is having good luck with his AGR Ram, b/c it gives me hope :)
    But honestly, right now, I'm soooo madddd I spent the money on them.
    And Titanic, you're right, the Ram can easily be done...well, not easily, but there are people out there that can do it for like 1/2 the cost of AGR....like $400something...and they do all the work, and you put it on. I almost went that route before I went with AGR, and am wishing I did.
    Boss

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