all i can say is wow that was not a fun ride. i was a little tired of the same old thing. so i figured what the hek lets try something new. so i went to the other socalled 4x4 site. i wasnt even there 2 hrs and found thay suck. then 48 hrs later i rechecked a post i made. all i can say is thay cant read and put 2+2 together oh wait 1+1 might be to hard for them. one of the mods went and trashed my thread. changed a link i had posted to some bull crap. then thay thaut it funny to post more b.s. about it. well i would like to publicly say i am sorry ck5.com for straying from the flock of goodness and faith in others. please dont think any less of me. warning to others who think the other place is better. thay suck and thay do what ever the hell thay want with out any respect to there own rules.