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Another reason I think Unions suck

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by gjk5, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. gjk5

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    Union will back teacher if fired on drug charges

    By By KYLENE KIANG The Daily Sentinel
    Thursday, September 28, 2006
    The teachers’ union that represents Lincoln Orchard Mesa Elementary School teacher Tammie Lee said it does not condone Lee’s alleged criminal behavior, but still will support her in the event of termination from employment.
    Lee, formerly known as Tammie Lee Reed, 41, has been arrested twice since October 2005. She was charged with methamphetamine and marijuana possession after the 2005 arrest and will face new charges from prosecutors Friday, following her arrest Sunday.
    “This is a criminal case. The charges against this woman are outside the scope of her employment,” read a joint statement from the Mesa Valley Education Association, the teachers’ union for Mesa County School District 51, and the Colorado Education Association. Neither group is involved in the legal matters of Lee’s criminal case.



    http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/09/28/9_28_1b_MVEA_react.html


    I am more concerned with the fact that they want to drug test every friggin person that works at WalMart and Home Depot for drugs, but they do no drug tests on the people who are supposed to be teaching and caring for our kids. I don't care if the guy selling me sheet rock is high, I do care if my kids teacher is high.
     
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    They don't condone, it- but they support her? What a load of ****. Grab me a tow rope.
     
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    Union = Socialism.
     
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    :haha: :haha: :haha: Don't know if you meant it that way but very appropriate for a Colorado topic right now.
     
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    my mother worked with a no good worthless peice of lazy slacking off garbage. thay had him fired and packing his crap. then he said hay union whats up with this. ?

    well he still workes there to this day. same old a$$hat as always. :mad:
     
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    Protecting those that should be fired.
     
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    yeah baby thats the union.the lady i work with told me a story her hubby told her about this kinda ****.her husband worked at dearborn assembly where they make the mustang.i guess when they were rolling the new model down the line( the style before the one they have now) and they wanted everyone to stay on the line until the car passed them.the media was there and they wanted it straight. well leroy descided he had a HEADACHE and needed asperin.his foreman asked him to please wait till the car passed and leroy got mad and said he NEEDED an asperin.the foreman asked him one more time and the dood grabbed some kind of tool and blasted the foreman and it almost took his ear off!!!after the union got involved THE FOREMAN WAS TRANSFERED!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: WTH???
     
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    I guess I am missing a few "facts". I read "charged with", not convicted of. What happened to innocent till proven guilty??????:confused: :confused:
     
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    all homie had to do was sit there and when the car passed he could have left for the day.BUT he had to show his i can do what i want attitude.he should be glad he has a job.well thats changing in the D.there will be no jobs making $26.00 an hour to push a broom anymore.the union pushed too far thats why companies outsource.they are in buiseness to MAKE money not employ people.when people figure that out it will be too late.:doah:
     
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    Umm...most drug cases are pretty cut and dry. There's no gray area involved...you are either high or not, got some weed in your pocket or not.

    As far as I am concerned, the fact that she was even "charged with" is enough evidence to fire her for me. Wrong place at the wrong time, whatever. She should know better.
     
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    OK, so if you are charged with a crime, you should lose your job, correct????:rolleyes: :haha:
     
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    Although I didn't read where the administration wants to fire her yet, I can see why they might want to fire someone with her record.. heck, the parents will probably demand it anyway once word gets out..

    If the administration was smart, they'd sit tight, let everything play out, and if she beats the drug rap they can always fire her butt later and say that an "anonymous" co worker claimed she uses the N-word a lot, and they can't have a racist non inclusive bigot on staff.. no union in the world would try to defend her then..

    gotta beat the lefties at their own game.
     
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    If you are dealing with children, and the DA's office has enough evidence to charge you with a drug-related offence, you should at the very least placed on unpaid suspension until the outcome of your trial.

    IMHO.
     
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    Yep. That's how I see it. Don't do anything that would result in me getting charged with a crime.

    Getting arrested (but not charged) would have been a different story. Has to be enough evidence to charge her.
     
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    BTW, I forgot to add that if I was arrested for possession of narcotics, and my company caught wind of it, I would most certainly be fired. Which is fine by me- I don't need to be doing a job like mine with a closet meth-head as my partner.

    Like Ryan said above- don't wanna get arrested and charged? Don't do bad things. Seems simple to me.
     
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    Wanna know why domestic auto manufacturers are going under? I can't list all the reasons, but paying $35.00 and hour to some dude who pushes buttons on an assembly line might be one reason. Unions are killing the big 3. Unions suck.
     
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    Well, I was not implying she should be fired before the outcome of her trial, I was commenting on the fact that the union said they would fight for her to keep her job EVEN IF she was convicted. That's the fugged up part right there.


    And as far as innocent until proven guilty, I do agree with you however it's pretty hard to dispute being caught with meth twice. It's not like "Oh, we think she may have been involved in a crime" she was holding the sh*t, and took it to freakin jail crammed up her crank hole. And fought the cops over it during her search. Not a whole lot of room for interpretation right there.

    Not to mention second offence before even being tried for the first, she doesn't appear to have been a "casual" meth user (if there even is such a thing).
     
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    Well, I said I was missing some facts.:doah:
     
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    this is what unions do... support lazy or ****ed up people... even though they are lazy or ****ed up. Seriously, if Osama bin Laden was in an American union, he wouldn't even have lost his job after 9.11.

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    IMO, when you're a teacher and you're responsible for kids, the most important things in plenty of peoples lives, there is no criminal charge outside the scope of your employment.

    There was a bus driver in my district last year that was arrested for some sex crime. He was suspended pretty quick, and when found guilty, lost his job. Show me the union that would stand up and say the charges were outside the scope of his job and I'll show you someone with a rectal cranial inversion.
     

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