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anti-seize and lug nuts

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by rdn2blazer, Nov 27, 2006.

  1. rdn2blazer

    rdn2blazer 1 ton status Premium Member

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    rdn2blazer 1 ton status Premium Member

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    oh, and for the record I have used anti-seize on lug nuts for atleast 20 years, and have never had a problem with stripping or I have never snapped a stud off or had a wheel come off. I have had dry lug nuts strip and or snap a stud off though.

    I try to use what I consider the appropriate lubricant or thread lock where I see fit. I base this on years of self taught experience with not only using fasteners but machining thousands of fasteners also. machining for all the years I have I have machined many many types of specialty and standard fasteners. also the lack of failuer in what ever I have built over the years and used either anti-reize on or thread locker on to me speaks for itself.
     
  3. Tabb

    Tabb ROLL TIDE! AGAIN! GMOTM Winner

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    Interesting stuff. Me personally, I don't like using it. Only when I,ve got a wheel with lug nuts that have been overtighted and are difficult to remove I'll use some then and only if the threads are not damaged, if they are replace the nut, stud, or both.
     
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    Here in New York we buy anti seize by the buckets, it goes on EVERYTHING!
     
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    I use it as I have twisted the 7/16 studs off of my 10 bolt:doah: .

    If I overstretch a 9/16 Dana 60 stud then I dont need to lift weights anymore:haha: . Here in the Navy there is not a fastener anywhere that does not have some form of lubricant put on it to prevent galling of the threads during the torqueing process. Unless it has a thread locker on it.

    Ira
     
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    I spray a little white grease on my studs, as well as lots of other threads. :wink1:
     
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    I didnt read the article yet, but I will....I will say that I use anti sieze on almost everything. It is great stuff for many applications, I as well have used them on lug studs and never broken a stud while using it. Although I have broken a few studs without the antisieze. When I assemble motors I use the stuff liberally on all bearing surfaces.
     
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    I dont know if it makes any difference, but mercedes use lug bolts. Owning both a mercedes and a blazer, it is a lot easier to wring one off the mercedes than it is the truck.
    -Harrison
     
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    I have always used anti-seize on just about any bolt/nut that doesn't get lock-tite. When I was in the business, I never had a customer come back with lug issues due to the anti-seize.
     
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    yeah and i can imagine it's a bit more costly to make that repair if you goober up the hub threads.
     
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    I aways never-seize my nuts. :eek1::haha:

    My stock nuts were really tight. I think over-torqueing and grime did them in. They could not be spun off by hand after loosening.

    I invested in closed-ended chrome nuts. They spun onto the same wheel studs by hand without issue. No grime contamination, and I get better mileage from the never-seize too.
     
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    And I've never had any fastener break, stretch, steal my dog or nuthin'. :waytogo:
     
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    My uncle swears by using "terlet wax" as he calls it. A little dab from a wax ring on each stud and he never has any trouble with lug nuts.
     
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    Tell me about it. A water pump for my truck is $24.99 with a lifetime guarantee. A waterpump for my benz (which is 2 years older than the k5) is $80.:doah:
    -Harrison
     
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    remember to drop your torque setting with lubricated threads (~15-20%). or you will be over torqueing the fastener. Dry TQ spec on Lubed threads = asking for trouble.
     
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    My Fastener Torque Design Guide shows 3 different torques to achieve 75% Yield Strength in a 9/16" NF thread:
    Plain (No plating) = 187 ft-lbs
    Plated (dry) = 184 ft-lbs
    Waxed = 84 ft-lbs.

    Here's a ref if you want to see the calcs: Riverhawk

    I use a small dab of anti-seize on each stud. I live on the Left Coast and things rust here too. I've fought too many seized nuts or bolts to not use something in the threads.
     
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    I guess I should go change out all of my wheel studs then cause mine are torqued to 130 ft-lbs with C5A.:haha:

    Ira
     
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    Unfortunately I've no ref for what the Cf of anti-sneeze is, so I can't put any sort of number on what the torque should be when using it.

    WTH is "C5A"?
     
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    DEMON44 Low-Tech Redneck

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    nice.....CF 0.07



    sandawg.........you're way over torqued.
     

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