First off 4x4 iron makes impressive bumpers. Secondly for those of you who installed the rear bumper, did you notch the bottom of the truck bed (just above the frame rails at the very back of the box,) to allow you to mount the bumper bracket as close as possible. For me to mount the L shaped piece of iron to my frame, and not have the bumper stick out, I need to notch the box. Justwondering whateveryone else has done. My bumper may be slightly different, as Butch incorporated a winch mount on my rear bumper.