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Anything between a D60 and a GM10?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by txbartman, Nov 29, 2001.

  1. txbartman

    txbartman 1/2 ton status

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    Is there anything for the front that is stronger than a GM 10-bolt and worth swapping to that would be less expensive and lighter with more clearance than a D60?

    Brian
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  2. tRustyK5

    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    nope...

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  3. Burt4x4

    Burt4x4 3/4 ton status

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    well how about a D44 (or GM10) Stuffed with Warn CMoly axel shafts,fullcircle 297 Ujoints,Powr-Lok or ARB, Warn Hub fuses in Warn Premium hubs and a Rockstomper RockRod and yer set!!

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  4. michaelm

    michaelm 1/2 ton status

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    so does the 'full circle' somehow make them stronger
    and
    if you read the question he said "CHEAPER"

    the 60 is the only option, ground clearance is meaningless if your broken
    I never noticed a great difference with the ground clearance, sure noticed that it doesnt break.

    I love how this keeps repeating
     
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    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    I think that would cost almost as much as a D60...

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  6. Burt4x4

    Burt4x4 3/4 ton status

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    Ya the full circle clips are suppose to keep the caps from working out of the ears. Wich is one of the causes for failure.

    I know he said cheaper and it actually is but still not cheap.

    The only substatute for a D60 would be driving skill....


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  7. muddin4fun

    muddin4fun 3/4 ton status

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    As far as cost and what not, I'd go straight to a D60. A D44 isn't that much stronger. Nor is a 12 bolt front [​IMG]. I'm gonna beef up my front 10 bolts a little, but if it breaks too often, I'm going with a D60

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  8. michaelm

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    by 'driving skill' you must mean 'stay at home where it is safe'
    recheck your math, how many broken axles, broken carriers, cooked undersized brakes, broken hubs, snapped housings etc does it take to equal a $1000 dana 60.
    I fixed 3 dana 44s
    so far my 60 has had Warn give me 2 new hubs to replace their faulty design, free. and has taken FAR more abuse

    nice truck by the way
     
  9. michaelm

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    wow!
    you have seen the light,
    I hope when it breaks you are among friends and no one is hurt.
    if you keep your tire size at or below 35" you can run a 44 or 10 bolt for a looong time with an eye towards inspections and maintainance
     
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    hahahaha LOL, No not by staying home by making good lines and a bit of throttel control...
    I have not destroyed nearily as many parts as you, but I have only been wheelin sence 93 so.....
    Hey it's all good that's why I carry a minny Napa store in my rig [​IMG]

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    yup,
    i am the same way.
    every ujoint has a spare
    spare axle bearings and seals and gear oil
    all the tools that can be carried to do the job are on board
    never had to use any away from home on my truck since the 60 went in.
     
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    [​IMG]

    If my 10 bolt breaks too often. [​IMG]

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    My 10 bolt has held up to alot abuse and it is locked. The biggest thing to making them last is light weight. I have gotten into serious rockcrawling since I rolled it. My Jimmy is really light compared to a stock one. No doors, no top, no windshield, cheap japanesse front end, gutted tailgate, no carpet, etc. I does have a full cage though.

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    A D44 isn't ANY stronger.

    Tim
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  16. it would be nice to have another alternative. something that was in as much mass production as 44s and 10 bolts. i've hammered my front 10 bolt pretty good and jumped it a few times. its trussed and open. still would like something beefier that isn't as elusive and expensive as a 60.

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    There is something in between, but it would be more expensive and wouldn't fit with out a lot of fab work and a different x-fer case. The Dana 50, it uses a D44 size R&amp;P but has larger u-joints. The axles start out big near the knuckle but neck down near the diff to ~1.3" same as a D44. In 20 yrs when they are all over the junkyards, that might be a good solution. If you want to spend lots of money you could get the knuckles welded on your 10B like All-Pro does with the Toy fronts to get rid of the Birfeilds. In reality it is either the 10B/D44 or the D60. With 36s down the 1/2 ton stuff will last. If I were going bigger I would one ton it. That is just my opinion though, I don't know how many times this has been debated and everyone has their own experance and bias they bring to the "arguement". My thought is wheel it and see what happens, but don't go gonzo with an unproven combo. Experience is knowledge and weight is the enemy.

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    I am looking for one of those Factory 12 bolt fronts.[​IMG] I think if I can get one I would get rid of my junk 10 bolt Dana 60.[​IMG]

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  19. ZZ4x4

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    I wonder if a 3/4 ton 10 bolt is stronger than a 1/2 ton unit. I know that axle shafts and r&amp;p may be the same, but the axle tubes on my 1/2 ton D44 were much thinner than my 3/4 ton 10 bolt. Thinking the extra rigidity would probably help lessen breakage due to axle flex. Just not sure if this is true in real world off-roading. HMMM. JT
     
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    On the contrary, the D44 has slightly larger carrier bearings, making it slightly stronger. Also, if you are comparing an earlier 10 bolt with 28 spline shaft, the D44 is slightly stronger there also with 30 spline shafts..

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