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AWB IS DEAD!!!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by smprider112, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. smprider112

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    For any one who owns guns...today is a fine day!! for we have won back our right, that was un-justly taken from us 10 years ago...And for any one who isnt as enlightened about the assault weopons ban as others...this doesnt mean machine guns are now legal /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
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    September 13, 2004

    OPEN LETTER TO FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS IMPORTERS
    AND REGISTERED IMPORTERS OF U.S. MUNITIONS IMPORT LIST
    ARTICLES

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) is committed to keeping industry members informed of statutory and regulatory developments affecting them. In furtherance of this commitment, we have prepared this open letter, which contains information about recent changes that may affect your day-to-day operations and/or long range plans.

    Sunset of Bans on Semiautomatic Assault Weapons and Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices

    On September 13, 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, Public Law 103-322. Title IX, Subtitle A, Section 110105 of this Act generally made it unlawful to manufacture, transfer, and possess semiautomatic assault weapons (SAWs) and to transfer and possess large capacity ammunition feeding devices (LCAFDs). The law also required importers and manufacturers to place certain markings on SAWs and LCAFDs, designating they were for export or law enforcement/government use. Significantly, the law provided that it would expire 10 years from the date of enactment. Accordingly, effective 12:01 a.m. on September 13, 2004, the provisions of the law will cease to apply. This open letter is to advise the import community of the effect of this on importations.

    Importation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons

    There is no longer a Federal prohibition on the manufacture, transfer and possession of SAWs.


    Nonsporting firearms are still prohibited from importation under 18 U.S.C. sections 922(l) and 925(d)(3). Because the vast majority of SAWs are nonsporting, they generally cannot be imported.


    SAWs no longer have to be marked “restricted law enforcement/government use only” or “export only.” However, if an importer has an approved Form 6 import permit for SAWs with a restriction stamp on it related to the ban, the importer should comply with the restriction because the firearms most likely are nonsporting.


    SAWs may be imported into a Customs Bonded Warehouse or Foreign Trade Zone because the sporting purposes test does not apply to these imports.


    SAWs may be temporarily imported under the provisions of 27 CFR section 478.115(d) because firearms that are temporarily imported are not required to meet the sporting purposes test.
    Importation of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices

    LCAFDs are no longer prohibited from importation. However, they are still subject to the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act. Therefore an approved Form 6 import permit is still required.


    LCAFDs will no longer have to be marked “restricted law enforcement/government use only” or “export only” and importers no longer have to collect documentation that demonstrates imports are for government sale. However, any existing records still must be maintained for a period of 5 years. See 27 CFR section 478.40a. Moreover, importers are still required to maintain their acquisition records permanently and disposition records for 20 years.


    If an importer has an approved Form 6 import permit for LCAFDs with a restriction stamp on it related to the ban, the importer may import LCAFDs using the permit and disregard the restriction stamp. However, importers may apply for a new permit if they prefer.
    Please note:

    The provisions of 18 U.S.C. section 922(r) and 27 CFR 478.39 regarding assembly of nonsporting shotguns and semiautomatic rifles from imported parts still apply.


    All provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA) relating to registration and transfer of machineguns, short barreled rifles, weapons made from rifles, short barreled shotguns, weapons made from shotguns, any other weapons as defined in 26 USC section 5845(e), silencers, and destructive devices still apply.


    USAS-12 and Striker 12/Streetsweeper shotguns are still classified as destructive devices under ATF Rulings 94-1 and 94-2 and must be possessed and transferred in accordance with the NFA.
    We recognize that you may have ATF correspondence and publications that contain obsolete information. For example, a July 30, 2002 open letter discussed the importation of pre-September 13, 1994 large capacity magazines. This section of the open letter no longer must be complied with. Similarly, the ATF Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide and the ATF Guidebook: Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunitions & Implements of War contain some information that now is incorrect. We will update these publications as soon as possible. Moreover, we will provide up-to-date information on our website: www.atf.gov.

    Maintaining open lines of communication is vital to the successful future of ATF’s partnership with the import community. The Firearms and Explosives Imports Branch is available to answer your questions about the issues addressed in this letter. You may reach us by phone at 202-927-8320 or by fax at 202-927-2697.




    for Audrey Stucko,
    Chief, Firearms and Explosives
    Services Division
     
  2. 84_Chevy_K10

    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

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    And I lost my damn FOID! Going to be a MONTH before I can take part in this. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    Woo-Hoo!! Long live the 2nd amendment /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif!!

    Now let's see if the prices of this now "non-banned" merchandise comes down /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif.
     
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    I found a $600 Super Black Eagle at the Cabela's in Mitchell SD for $600 but I dont have the cash for it...
    Since the ban is up I'll start looking for HK91's, G3's and MP5's /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
    Time to find a job and start saving money!
     
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    Thank god. I can finally buy standard capacity magazines for my sig 229.

    And my sidefolding AK can now fold /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    You can bet some Jackass in Washington will try to get it back into law. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    You can bet some Jackass in Washington will try to get it back into law. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

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    Not if we fight hard enough....letters to yer congress men, memberships to the NRA is all stuff WE can do to make sure it doesnt happen again /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    I just cant wait to have my AR15's "non-collapsable" stock actually collapse, and hi-caps are gonna be so nice to buy for good prices /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif I'll be buying mags for guns I dont even have yet /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif I can only imagine how well the gun industry is gonna do in the next couple months!! wish I had stocks in some /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    You can bet some Jackass in Washington will try to get it back into law. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

    [/ QUOTE ] Yeap, John Kerry is already snivelling about it on his campain.
     
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    So with the ban being over does this mean I can now put a collapsable stock on my AR15 that was made during the ban period?

    Does it mean that guns made during the ban period are now ok to modify for folding stocks, 30rd mags, extended tube mags, etc, flash supressors,etc?

    Does this now mean that the standard capacity mags made during the ban period that are stamped LE/GOVT only are now ok to own and possess?
     
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    Yes, yes, and yes. There essentially is nor never was a, "Ban period" anymore. Pretend it never existed.

    As long as nobody can prove you had something, "Illegal" yesterday, you can have what ever you want now.

    That's how I interpreted the ATF's website anyway.
     
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    If these items were purchased before the "ban" went into affect, you were still allowed to possess them. Those items just were not to be manufactured or imported. I've had hi-cap mags for my Smith 5903 and AR-15 since day one - not to mention those evil flash suppressors and bayonet lugs!! (The Horror!) /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

    Kalifornia is a different story .... /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    Wow, I just read what's on Kerry's site about the AWB. Talk about manipulation!
    He's TOTALLY manipulating it to look like the president made it go away, and wants to put "Assault weapons" in the hands of al quada.
    Just knowing what I know about the AWB and seeing the Kerry site's manipulation of it to make it a Bush slam would make me vote against Kerry. But, on the other hand, I think everything about Kerry is awful, so it's hard to say if I'd vote against him just because he's a Michael Moorer (manipulative distorter of facts).
     
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    FREEEEEDOM! /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif




    Re: Kerry: His campaign is trying to sell him as a 2nd amendment supporter and an "avid hunter"!! They are using that picture I posted last week waving the shotgun to support this LIE!

    I would be shocked if he was not an "F" rating w/ the NRA and GOA. I give him an "F" for it, and being a big city liberal.
     
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    yeah, kerry is such a joke right now. He's really getting desperate / shrill. His comments on the AWB make it sound like Osama is going to go to a gun store, buy some machine guns and attack the US with them and it'll be Bush's fault. Gimme a fawkin break.

    a) terrorists dont give a chit about gun laws, they use whatever they can get their hands on, legal or not.

    b) terrorists dont buy guns at gun stores

    c) guns are not the weapon of choice for terrorists, mainly because they suck with them.

    d) Bush would have passed the AWB extension if it had made it out of the Congress.

    so in other words, all this crying/complaining Kerry is doing right now is completely senseless.

    j
     
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    Kerry: His campaign is trying to sell him as a 2nd amendment supporter and an "avid hunter"!! They are using that picture I posted last week waving the shotgun to support this LIE!


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    Year I saw him on tv the other day doing some sort of game bird hunting /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif Why is it evrey time there is an election the Dem canidate has to do some sort of hunt. Who the **** are they fooling. Like some good old boy NRA member is gonna say to himself "hey look he's hunting well Im gonna vote for him" Give the average joe some credit were not inpressed by a once in a lifetime hunt.
     
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    Oh my god, folding stocks on the street! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HI CAP FACTORY !
     
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    You guys wanna hear some propaganda Bullsh*T at my store (we are union) they had this lil vote for kerry pamphlet that boldely said on it "John Kerry supports the Union and your second ammendment right" I just about crapped my pants when I say that!! Be sure the next day I put up a few things I got off the net, basically Kerry's voting record on gun laws and how he has supported every gun law that infringes our rights!!! /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    You guys wanna hear some propaganda Bullsh*T at my store (we are union) they had this lil vote for kerry pamphlet that boldely said on it "John Kerry supports the Union and your second ammendment right" I just about crapped my pants when I say that!! Be sure the next day I put up a few things I got off the net, basically Kerry's voting record on gun laws and how he has supported every gun law that infringes our rights!!! /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

    [/ QUOTE ] Keep putting them up for everybody too read. Also point out how J. Kerry flip flops on the issues. A big issue to me is how Kerry has voted too increase energy tax. Hell Kerry voted to increase fedreal gas tax by 50%.
     
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    the worst thing I can think of is...of all the previous presidents and people running against them...Kerry is probably the only one I can think of that I would be affraid if he won /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif
     
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    I would be shocked if he was not an "F" rating w/ the NRA and GOA.

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    He has indeed been rated "F" by the NRA. NRA

    Also - that little photo-op in West Virginia where some group gave him a shotgun? By accepting the gun - Kerry broke about a half dozen federal gun laws!

    Drudge Report
     

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