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axle swapping ideas

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by mud390, Jul 13, 2003.

  1. mud390

    mud390 1/2 ton status

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    I have an 84 K5 with 10 bolts front and rear. Its in really good shape, but its sitting stock height. I also have a 77 K5 with a dana 44/12 bolt combo. While lifting the 84, I was thinking of swapping the axles at the same time. I'm thinking of going for 6" with 35's. Mostly a mud and trail truck. Would it be better to hold out and wait for the ever elusive 3/4 or 1 ton axles or do the swap for now and keep my eyes peeled for 1 ton stuff as I ride around on my new 35's? Either route I go, I'm gonna have to regear. I will also be buying new rims with the tires. I'm thinking holding out might be the better bet. Could I turn my 1/2 ton dana 44 into a 1 ton by putting on the 1 ton stuff from the knuckles out? Thanks for the opinions and help!

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    Zeus33rd Smarter than you GMOTM Winner

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    You could turn your truck into a 3/4 ton by swapping everything from a 3/4 ton D44 onto your D44. Only way to make it true 1 ton is with a D60. Don't forget the 14b rear. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
  3. mud390

    mud390 1/2 ton status

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    How reliable would a converted 3/4 dana 44 be running 35's? I was hoping to score either a 14b or a 60 rear. A dana 60 front is way out of my price range right now. I plan on regearing the axle or axles when I do the lift, unless I can find some with 4.10's in them already.

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    84K5cedric 1/2 ton status

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    It shouldn't be too hard to find a set of 3/4 ton axles with 4.10's. Its a pretty common ratio in the 3/4's. The 8-lug conversion won't gain you any strength for your D44 though. From what I understand, there is little difference in strength between the 3/4 ton and 1/2 ton d44/10b fronts.
     
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    Finding a set of 3/4 ton axles (14 Bolt FF / Dans 44 combo) isn't that hard. 373's or 410's are fairly comman gears in them. I picked up a set of 3/4 ton axles out of a 78 3/4 ton truck for a whole whooping $250.00, even had fairly new breaks on them. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    mud390 1/2 ton status

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    Sounds like swapping my 44 over to 3/4 ton isn't gonna net me any real strength. I think I'm gonna go try and find a set with 4.10's in them. A local 4x4 shop here told me they could regear both axles, new bearings and seal throughout and clean up the housing for around $1200. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif That is A LOT of money to me. Does the price sound fair though? They said $250 an axle for labor plus parts. I know a guy that will do both axles for $250 labor plus parts, but no guarantee or warantee. Thanks!

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    250 for labor seems a bit steep but not too bad.. The guy who does my gears out here charges 100 bucks if you bring him just the axle and 150 if you bring him the truck.
     
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    Wow! Wish I could find a deal like that around here. The guy I know said he would do both axles for $250, so that doesn't seem too bad. Hopefully I can find some 3/4 or 1 tons with 4.10's already in them.

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    Wow! Wish I could find a deal like that around here. The guy I know said he would do both axles for $250,

    Kris

    [/ QUOTE ] oh i thought you meant 250 per axle... Well then you got yourself a deal.

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    Hopefully I can find some 3/4 or 1 tons with 4.10's already in them.


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    not everyone needs one tons. Are you planning on putting a locker in the front end? Are you gonna wheel fairly hard? Do you ever plan on going over 35" tires?... a 44 will hold up to more then people think it will, some people run 38"+ tires and their 44 holds up, but if you add the combination of a locker, or rocks, or a heavy right foot, chances are its gonna snap. If i were you i wouldnt waste time regearing half ton axles, Hold out for the 4:10 3/4tons. shouldnt take you more then 2-3 days to find some axles.
     
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    Right now, 35's are as big as I want to go. For now... I don't do to much on the rocks, unless they are just on the trail that I am riding on, but I do a lot of mud. And I have like to use the happy pedal liberally when playing. Seems to make the grin on my fast bigger. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I just don't want to have to worry about blowing something up under there. As far as lockers go, I might run a very tight limited slip in the front, but, for now, no locker up there. The rear is a different story. I think I am going to hold out for the 1 tons with 4.10's.

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    if you stay 1/2ton and lift then go 3/4 or 1ton then your gonna have to buy wheels twice or get adapters
     
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    I've got 31x10.5 on 15x8's now. When I got to a 12.5 tire, I was planning on getting a 10" wide wheel. So either way, I was getting new rims and tires. Its just gonna cost me a few extra bucks. Will 15" wheels fit over a 14 bolt without any mods? If not, what has to be done? What about a 44 front? Thanks!

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    15"s will fit a 14ff, but on a d60 you will have to do some grinding and im pretty sure you will need to grind a 8lug d44 aswell, how much grinding? that depends on the backspace of your wheels.
     
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    Good deal. I really don't like the added cost of running 16" wheels. I'll have to look into the whole 44 issue. Thanks!

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    right but if you buy new 6lug wheels then you will have to buy 8lugwheels when you get the 14BOLT and if you get aluminum wheels you will have to have the hubs machined down to 4 5/16
     
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    I was looking at some black rock crawlers. I think they look sharp and they seem to be extremely tough. Thanks for the heads up on the machining of aluminum wheels though.

    Kris
     

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