It is beyond words. Upper Heldorado, Ajax and Little Sluice are the only things I have seen that I think compare. We did Clawhammer and Sledge Hammer and it was tough. Getting it is not the words. Carnage Report: In Ken's Rig: Ken (CRWLN 73): marker light, rag joint Chris (FRIZZLE FRY): forgot glasses for night run In Tony's Truggy: Tony (73K5tony510): dent in what is left of the fender, wet sleeping bag zakk: 2 toes, camcorder, cell fone, punctured hand. In all, the trails, climbs and rocks were so big and fierce, 38's are the starting point. We had to stack rocks on the Truggy on 44's in one section of Sledge. Extensive armor and no bed are required for full sizes. Sledge also seemed to have a knack for finding the one weak point in a rig and exploiting it. I have some camcorder footage I need to download into my computer, then I can get someone to host it so you guys can see that this is the place for rocks in California. We didn't tackle Jack and Wrecking Ball as we ran out of time. But we will be back this year with 4 rigs and run them all. pics and footage ASAP. Now i am going to go cry that all I have built is a gawdamn mall cruiser.