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BBC Head bolts? - Stainless? Teflon coated? ARP?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by TopOff, Jan 4, 2004.

  1. TopOff

    TopOff 1/2 ton status

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    Which Head bolts should I get for a BBC?

    I was looking at my stock ones... I don't know the condition.

    Stainless?

    Grade 8 - teflon coated?

    ARP?

    Milodon?

    What ya' think?
     
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    4X4HIGH 1 ton status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Nothing better than ARP IMHO.
     
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    Another vote for ARP. Those guys only do one thing, and they do it VERY well. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Might want to look at ARP's stud kit too. Only draw back is that it can make pulling a head next to impossible when the engine is in the truck.
     
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    Studs probably aren't worth the <font color="green"> $$$ </font> or hassle unless its making high cylinder pressures.( Blower, Nitrous)

    Also, if they ain't broke don't fix em. If your'e building a motor use new bolts. But don't mess with em if its just cause you "don't know their condition"
     
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    ARP is nice stuff, Grade 8 is good too (unsure of ARP BBC head bolt grade) but dont get stainless its not strong at all its equivent to Grade 2 steel.... unless its aircraft stainless but thats BIG $$
     
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    ARP stuff makes grade 8 look like plastic bolts. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  9. TopOff

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    That's mostly what I thought too...

    Thanks guys! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    I am going to order some right now.
     
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    Hello fellow BBC build up Brother.
    Nice question!
    Please tell me were/how much/part # of the ARP bolts you are getting. I too want the best for my 454 build up.
    Are all BBC head bolts the same?
    You are building a 396, right?
    Thanks
    Burt
     
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    I think most factory cast heads use the same bolts. Some aftermarket heads, aluminum and cast, use different bolts.
     
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    K2Orion - You are correct.

    The factory heads use 24 "long" and 8 "short" head bolts.
    The aluminum heads use three different size bolts.
    Also Gen VI and "Bowtie" blocks use more than the 32 head bolts. I would have to look at my book again to be sure though.

    BURT- I thought you were just going to RUN the "running 454"? You're rebuilding it??? Damn, these things are expesive....I am looking at $1100 in machine work alone.

    The ARP head bolts are (either $60.99) or $69.99 from my local "race shop".
    There's a set on EBAY right now. But I need these by the weekend.

    My machinists said the factory ones are fine for a street and truck motor. I just keep thinking these bolts are over 35 years old! (1969)

    He also suggested the ARPs are the same as the factory! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

    SAYYyyy do you need a (counter-balanced) flywheel for that 454? I got one for sale... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif It came off my 383 with only 6500 miles on it - from GM!

    I pocketed and ported my "truck heads". These things were VERY anemic even though it had the stock size valves.

    Have you looked at Camshafts? I already received a Crane Powermax 266. But I am about to order the Powermax 260. According to Desktop Dyno the output numbers will be about the same. More low-end torque out of the PWRMX 260 though - 455 lb/ft at 3500 with 389 hp at 5000!

    I can hardly wait!
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    BURT- I thought you were just going to RUN the "running 454"?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Nope I tore it all apart for a complete rebuild. I want 9:1 compression with Edelbrock MPFI
    This will be a very mild build up with lowend torque as the main goal. I am making a list of all the parts I need. I went over to www.summitracing.com and they have the ARP bolt kit for 49.95, but I'm sure by the time you pay shipping and rush delivery you will be at the same cost as the local speed shop folks. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    I haven't bought any parts yet...still in research mode. Well that and saving money mode too.

    Hey that reminds me do you still need a factory intake? I have one I will not be using.
    Late
     
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    Look closer at that ARP "bolt kit" It does NOT include the HEAD bolts!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

    These are overpriced oil-pan, intake, and valve cover, water-pump, and header bolts...

    I found some Stainless Steel ones on Ebay for only $30.00 (plus $10 shipping). /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    I need these too.. I think I can save a few $ by buying local though.

    My motor should be free from the machinist this Friday! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
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    What I was looking at is this:
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    ARP-135-3601
    Chevrolet: 396-454, all with cast iron OEM heads, hex head, head bolt kit
    $49.88

    You are closer than I am /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    I have to wait until after my Tax return to get the EFI anyway so....
    Hope all goes well with your build up! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif
     
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    used all ARP studs and bolts in my motor
     
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    /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gifKEWL! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    I couldn't find it earlier today. Thanks!

    I just need these, the right camshaft, bolt kit, borrow someone's dial-indicator - and I am set! WOOHOO!
     

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