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Beefing up 10bolt

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by TXsizeK5, Dec 3, 2001.

  1. TXsizeK5

    TXsizeK5 1/2 ton status

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    What are some things you can do to beef up a 10bolt ?
    As in when people "build it up" and what not.. j/w
    Thanks.


    6in 87' K5 w/ 35" BFG muds.
    305/Sm465/ NP208
    Kn, 4.56's.
    In desperate need of a rebuild.
    Next- Eaton mech locker... Flows.
     
  2. BLUESMAN

    BLUESMAN 1/2 ton status

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    I know you acn "beef up" a 10 bolt but the $ invested would go better towards at least a 12 bolt.Are we talking rear or front?If the rear I would swap a 12 bolt or even a 14 bolt(that's what I'm doing).The front...well the Dana 44 is not that much stronger,but worth the try.Are you planning on installing some kind of lockers?I see you are running 35" tires....Don't wheel too hard and they might last a couple seasons.But I would just upgrade now and get the larger diffs.Sell the 10 bolts while they are all together.

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  3. TXsizeK5

    TXsizeK5 1/2 ton status

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    Well, my mechanic said he has buiilt quite some many 10bolts with lockers and posis in em alike.. and none have failed on him or his customers.. and he ran 44's (i dont think he ran them on a 10bolt cuz it was a dodge but he used to have a cehvy truck or something)

    6in 87' K5 w/ 35" BFG muds.
    305/Sm465/ NP208
    Kn, 4.56's.
    In desperate need of a rebuild.
    Next- Eaton mech locker... Flows.
     
  4. ChevyCaGal

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    You can get the new unbreakable u-joints... chrome molly axle shafts.. truss it up. If you go with a 30 spline and replace the carrier with a locker like an arb or something then that makes them pretty strong.....

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  5. Liberator

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    [​IMG] Yup, what she said! [​IMG]

    If it breaks, it wasn't good enough!
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    I was thining about upgrading my 12 bolt. The last time I checked, good replacement axle shafts for the 12 bolt were $99 a piece! The 10 bolt shafts are the same price! So I went to the local bone yard and picked up a 14 bolt FF for $150.

    Now, no more worries! I can always count on my 14 bolt! It's the 10 bolt front that I worry about! Hopefully, that'll be gone soon too! As soon as I come up with the cash.

    Bo

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    As a recent convert to the 1 Ton club, I can honestly say I am very glad I didn't invest any money in my 10b. For less money than it takes to up grade the 10b you can have an almost indestructable 14B. To each his own, but I am very gald I did it.

    Derf00
    1990 K5 Jimmy 350 Edelbrock Performer TBI, 6in BDS Lift, Dana 60, 4.56, Corp 14B Detriot, 16x10 AE 589's, 37x12.5 SSR
     
  8. TXsizeK5

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    Aw well, i alreayd invested ALOT for 4.56's. So no point in throwing that out...

    6in 87' K5 w/ 35" BFG muds.
    305/Sm465/ NP208
    Kn, 4.56's.
    In desperate need of a rebuild.
    Next- Eaton mech locker... Flows.
     
  9. BadDog

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    Ever heard that old saying, "Throwing good money after bad."?

    I would be thinking about selling your 4.56 10 bolt to get some of your money back and getting a 4.56 14FF and 3/4 ton front upgrade to your front axle.

    Russ

    85 K30 CUCV, 350 TBI, TH400, 205, D60/C14, 4.56 Locked
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    I second what Russ just said. I wasted alot of money fixing broken parts form my 10bolts.



    ric

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  11. muddysub

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    where can you get a 14bff for $150????? here in vegas they're like $650!!! and D60s are like $700!! this frickin sucks!! if i could get a 14bff for $150 i'd have one and a dana60 by now. but i guess my 14b semi floater will have to do for now. i'll keep it til i break it.

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  12. TXsizeK5

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    How much stronger are 14bolts or 12 bolts than built 10bolts and why?


    6in 87' K5 w/ 35" BFG muds.
    305/Sm465/ NP208
    Kn, 4.56's.
    In desperate need of a rebuild.
    Next- Eaton mech locker... Flows.
     
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    i really hope you are not complaining about $700 D60's...that is a deal, pawn whatever you can to get one...

    -zakk

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    how come you can say that and not get flamed?
    LOL
     
  15. michaelm

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    where do you live?
    $650US for a 14bolt
    they are in the trader for $150-200 CANADIAN here
    what is the exchange at like $0.60
    I have read someone from the south east US claim the same crazy numbers
     
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    A local auto salvage in Leavenworth, KS. I bought mine for $150. NoShow84 bought his for $130 and the guy said the next one we buy will be $100. But we looked all over that stinkin junk yard and couldn't find another one! So much for the great deal! Still haven't been able to find a Front Dana 60 though! I thought I had one for $500 obo this past weekend, but the King pin is stripped out of the axle. So the housing is basically scrap!

    Bo

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  17. ricka

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    You can put in chrome moly axle shafts for around $250. Dutchman
    (Portland, Oregon), Warn, Moser and others carry them. This will
    basically upgrade your axle to the equivalent of a 12-bolt in strength.

    I think Warn sells a full floater kit for the 10-bolt. This would probably
    make it equivalent of a 14 bolt full-floater. The full floater kit does include
    chrome moly axles. Cost of this is around $800.

    This is about all you can do. I upgraded my 12-bolt to full-floater with
    chrome moly axles. The hubs are Dana 60 1 ton's. I decided to go this
    route as I wanted to keep my bead locks (6 bolt) and was going to 4.10's
    and ARB which I already had. So this made since.

    I cannot argue with the advice of going with a Corp 14 FF in the rear
    though. According to the specs of my set-up, I believe I have the
    equivalent of this with my 12-bolt, and I'm lighter and have more
    ground clearance.

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    Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, OR 503-627-2630
     
  18. HarryH3

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    <blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

    I think Warn sells a full floater kit for the 10-bolt. This would probably
    make it equivalent of a 14 bolt full-floater.

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    10-bolt ring and pinions look like a childs toy when compared to 14-bolt ring and pinions. [​IMG] [​IMG] 14-bolt FF's are big, beefy, heavy muthas! [​IMG]

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  19. michaelm

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    the housing is far from junk
    any good 4x4 shop can knock that knuckle off and put a new one on
    it is old hat to them as they have to take them off to cut n turn
     
  20. ChevyCaGal

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    I have found 14b sf to be worth more in selling (especially the 6 lugger ones) then 14b ff... might wanna look into this.... if you can sell it for a good price you can go with the 14b ff and then buy that $750 dana 60 front. Because here I can't find a dana front for under $2000....

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