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Best Off-Roading in the West? Utah, Colorado, Arizona?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by rigdonhome, May 27, 2003.

  1. rigdonhome

    rigdonhome 1/2 ton status

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    I may take my recent 'Between Jobs' opportunity to move out West and relocate based solely on the quality of 'Off-Roading' in the area. The job just pays the bills, right?

    If I did such a crazy thing, where would I want to land? I would need to land near a large enough city to get a job in Mechanical Engineering, but want to be within an hour of awesome 4-Wheeling so I could go every weekend.

    Any Suggestions?

    Cheers,
    Scott
     
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    We got the hammers out here in Cali, we also have los coyotes, Tierra Del Sol and tons of other places that I cant think of at the moment.
     
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    BadDog SOL Staff Member Super Moderator Author

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    There is no place I've ever heard of that compares to the Phoenix area of AZ for number of (relatively) local trails, diversity of trails, and difficulty of trails...

    That's one of the main reasons I moved back out here after moving away. Question is, "Can you stand the heat?" It's already well over 100 here. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
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    Never lived in the AZ heat, but can't be worse than WI winters... No matter where you live you pay for it in one season or another. You spend a few months indoors no matter what. I can live with A/C rather than trying to keep my fingers and toes from freezing off in -10 cold... At least it would be a change!!! I'm willing to give it a try if there is good off-roading!!! CA sounds good too! So many possibilities, so little time!
     
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    Remember that kali has some of the worse smog laws in the country too.
     
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    BadDog SOL Staff Member Super Moderator Author

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    Not only the worst smog laws, but ridiculous cost of living, completely socialist society and supporting laws, complete rejection of personal liberty, oppressive taxes, and never ending throngs of people along with the associated crime, traffic jambs and other nuisances...

    And I agree, I *HATE* cold...

    <Edit> IMO the above applies accurately to SoCal, but there are parts of CA, just like upstate NY, where there are still bastions of "American" life... Can you tell I don't care for SoCal? /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    There are several personal reasons, as well as some pointed out here, that I am not really considering CA at this point in time... However, I realize the off-roading potential there.

    If this is not the forum for this topic, just say so and I'll drop it, but one reason is the gun control in CA. I will never again live in a state where I can't carry a loaded weapon to defend my family and self.

    Can anyone fill me in on the other state laws out West for Utah, AZ, CO, etc? I know CA is pretty much out of the question. I currently live in Indiana, and it is about as free as you can get. I can carry a 44 Magnum with a laser sight on it into Steak-N-Shake with me, fully loaded, lay it on the table next to my food, eat my entire meal, and as long as I don't point it at anyone, it's perfectly legal. And somewhat socially acceptable.

    We have laws you've heard of here like 'Shoot the Burglar' and 'Shoot the Carjacker' as they have in TX and other Southern States. I carry concealed just to avoid as much trouble as I can, but I had an incident once where I needed a weapon to defend my family and didn't have one... Won't happen again. I carry it nearly 24/7 now.

    I may not always be able to find my watch, but I can draw my gun from a dead sleep in less than 2 seconds and hit a moving target.

    What others call paranoid I simply call 'Paying Attention'...

    Cheers,
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    While I don't think you could sit in a restaurant in Phx (or AZ in general) with a gun on the table, well, lets put it this way, at rest stops on the interstates of AZ, there is a sign that reads "Please leave handguns in your vehicle." /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Like you, I can generally be found with a 357 Mag somewhere within easy access.
     
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    I've lived in Tempe AZ, San Diego, and now near Sacramento. So Cal is BY FAR the best. You can't beat 20 minutes to beach or mountains and 40 to the desert. Plus the weather is always great.
     
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    Got to agree that SoCal has the most diverse range of wheeling. Sea Level to 7000 feet, OHV to State Parks, Sand to Snow, Rocks to Mud and most all of it could be done on the same day if you planned it right. All of this comes at the price of LIVING in California as opposed to some other more hospitible states. What keeps me here is the huge range of temperatures you can expect through out the year like lows in the 60's and highs in the 80's .. all year. We have our areas which hit low 20's and high 120's but soCal Coastal is just right... and expensive!

    I've lived all over the western states and it really comes down to this no matter which state you move to. If its too cold you can always put on another Jacket, if its too Hot... well your screwed so deal with it. Other than that - I love arizona!
     
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    Grand Junction colorado....90 miles or so from Moab....24 miles from the utah state line...kinda cold winters...snows but rarely sticks...21 road trail north of town...colorado river runs through town...grand mesa is an hours drive and has 300 lakes....NO SMOG laws here at all...if your rig falls into the 20 years or older clause...collectors plates are good for 5 years...silvetrton/durango is 150 miles south of town...moved here from phx after 12 years...absolutely love it...

    DW
     
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    Yeah, but what about the mechanical engineering clause?? Can that be filled in your town?? I enjoyed the hell out of GJ, but it may not fill his bill /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif.
    Hey, I too am from Wisconsin, and I tell you, anymore 40 deg F is cold (not COLD, but cold), and the heat, anymore, doesn't really bother me. I have frigid-ass A/C in all my vehicles and don't even use it (this includes driving west into the sun for 8 miles on my drive home). Only time it gets turned on is when the wife is in the vehicle with me (gotta keep them cool). Yeah, you can't hide from the heat, but you know all too well that it's a real bitch trying to thread small fasteners togethter with mittens on /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif!!
     
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    I plan on moving to Durango for the wheeling, close to Farmington, Moab, Telluride, Ouray, silverton........
     
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    Move to South Lake Tahoe, Nevada side... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    I was just up to Carson City Nevada last week, just east of Tahoe - every 4th truck was a Blazer, and trails all over the place!!!
     
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    Gun Control Sucks!!! I won't get off on a rant here, but it sounds like the gun laws that you are used to are similar to AZ. When I'm out there is usually some form of heat on the belt, or at least within reach. I've never been hassled packing in a restaurant, but I think you may (I'm not sure on this one) have some grief in a tavern, and I'm quite sure you'll get grief in a bank, and I'm positive you'll get your picture on the front page if you take it on a school campus, but other than those, I think you're good to go /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
     
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    CA is definitely a better place to visit than it is to live. Of course, if u lived in AZ you'd be close enuff to cali that u could take advantage of its wheelin spots without turning ur life over to the socialists...

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    Exactly, I can be in LA in 6 hours, if I wanted to, which is not very often. /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif But they do have some great trails, plus sand dunes. But AZ has diversity too. The cinders, not far from "the dunes". 6 hours to the coast, 2 hours from Flagstaff (which picks up around 7k in altitude and typically looses 20*+ in temps if you just gotta get out of the heat) to the north. Something like 4 or so West (depending on where you draw the line and how you go) to the Rockies. Open desert "dirt road" type trails abound, you could never explore 10% if that was all you did. More hard core trails in a small area than anywhere I've ever heard of. And you don't have the problems that go with SoCal. I dont see how the guys living in SoCal can afford to live there AND pay for this rediculous, high priced hobby...
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Question is, "Can you stand the heat?" It's already well over 100 here.

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    100+ temps with low/no humidity ain't $hit! /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Gun Control Sucks!!! I won't get off on a rant here, but it sounds like the gun laws that you are used to are similar to AZ. When I'm out there is usually some form of heat on the belt, or at least within reach. I've never been hassled packing in a restaurant, but I think you may (I'm not sure on this one) have some grief in a tavern, and I'm quite sure you'll get grief in a bank, and I'm positive you'll get your picture on the front page if you take it on a school campus, but other than those, I think you're good to go /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

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    There are places here that are illegal to carry in as well, like government offices (police station, post office, etc.) taverns, etc. Then there are places like the mall that try to make you think you can't carry, although it is perfectly legal since it is a public place. What it all amounts to though is that if you don't get the damn thing out and wave it around and keep quiet about it, nobody cares. Who do you think they will all hide behind when some maniac starts firing wildly into the schoolyard? You with your .45 auto or the Security Guard with his Mace? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    AZ is sounding more liky IN with the gun laws, and close enough to CA that I can roadtrip over and Off-Road... Do they have a 'Border-Crossing' like you would have when crossing into any other socialist country? (Sorry, that last comment was uncalled for!!!)

    Cheers,
    Scott
     

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