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Borgeson Steering Shaft - Anyone running it?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by 1986Blazer, Jan 9, 2002.

  1. 1986Blazer

    1986Blazer 1/2 ton status

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    I am looking at the Borgeson Steering shaft to replace my worn original steering shaft. Has anyone installed this - if so, what were the improvements. Thanks

    Here is the link to the unit:

    http://www.geocities.com/keywestk5/KeyWestK5.html
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  2. Leadfoot

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    I have not used a Borgeson shaft, but I a similar unit from Flaming River that has worked awesome. It has two u-joints (and I opted to make one a vibration resistant style to keep hand fatigue down) and a slip shaft. The only drawback is that I had to cut both ends of the shaft a little shorter to make it work (which was easy with a hacksaw and a file to clean the edges.....took all of about 10 minutes). I love it and the steering feels much tighter. The only drawback to the Borgeson is it still utilizes a rag joint which I don't really care for. The only time I think a Borgeson shaft will benefit is if the bearings are shot in the upper portion of the top shaft. Hope this helps.

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  3. Burt4x4

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    I have one! Mine does not use a rag joint! it has Ujoints at each end with a Dslipshaft in the center. The Dshaft come extra long and you have to cut it down to the proper length! In my cas this was a good thing cuz my 3" bodylift ment I needed a steering shaft 3"(or so) longer than stock. I paid like 180 for it thru my local 4X shop about 1 1/2yrs ago. It has worked with out any issues at all, great investment.


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  4. 79k20

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    <font color=orange>The Borgeson shaft does not use a rag joint. It uses U-joints.</font color=orange>

    <font color=orange>SEAN<font color=orange>

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    Well, the borgeson shaft i installed in mine utilizes the rag joint. it has a u-joint on the top part only. The rag joint has no play in it so i dont see a problem. I was hoping it would use two u-joints but i needed to get the truck on the road so i used it any way. My steering was really bad, i replaced the ball joints and wheel bearings, which helped. I would say the shaft probably tightened up the feel of steering more than anything.

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  6. Leadfoot

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    Please look at the link the original poster published. The shaft he is looking at HAS a rag joint, and that was what I was refering to, unless he posted the incorrect picture. Either way.....
    Sorry if this sounds snotty...not meant to be. [​IMG]

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    Please excuse my ignorace. But what is a RAG joint?




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    Not a problem, if you don't ask questions, you will never know.
    A rag joint is the round flexible coupler between the steering box and the steering shaft. It's designed to keep road vibration from traveling up the steering shaft and causing vibrations on the steering wheel and concequently fatigue. I'm not sure of the exact composition but it looks like a several layers of cloth mesh and rubberized compound. The drawback is that it tends to dry rot and stretch over time, as well as it flexes to an extent when new which in my opinion takes away some of the road feel which I like (real time feedback). Some like the extra slop, but I prefer not to have it. Hope that helps.

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    [​IMG]<font color=orange>I didn't know they made one with a rag joint. The one I have has U-joints at both ends.</font color=orange>

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  10. Leadfoot

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    Hey man no prob., done the same thing myself [​IMG]. I originally was going to order a Borgeson shaft, but they did not list one with two u-joints (at the time), so I went with the Flaming river unit. I'm assuming the Borgeson unit with 2 u-joints is identical (or close to it), just not sure if they offer the vibration reducer. Either way you get them, rag joint or double u-joint, it should feel tighter than stock (especially if running the original shaft and rag joint).

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