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Camber adjustment - How much is there??

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Pugsley, Jan 17, 2002.

  1. Pugsley

    Pugsley 1/2 ton status

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    I just noticed that my driver's front wheel is WAY out of whack from a camber standpoint - how much adjustment is there that I can get at home? - Or am I screwed and in need of yet another new axle?

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  2. HarryH3

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    There isn't an adjustment. [​IMG] There are some shims that alignment shops can install behind the spindle to make small adjustments, but it sounds like you have a pretty serious problem if you can see that it's out of alignment. Check for worn balljoints, loose wheel bearings, loose spindle, etc. If you're lucky, that all it is. If you've been playing Dukes of Hazzard, then you might have bent the axle housing. [​IMG]

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    My bet is you have a worn out upper ball joint. Do you know how to check a ball joint? As far as 'shimming', the upper ball joint sits in a off set hole inside of a threaded 'sleeve'. You spin the 'sleeve around to pull the top of the wheel in or push it out. I have heard of wedge shaped shims used between the backing plate and the spindle to get proper alignment. If I remember correctly if you change the upper joint you HAVE to presss out the lower to gain access to it- given that, replace both.

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    You must be confussed in a Ford Dana 44 ?
    Check your FACT'S something smells fishy to me !
     
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    No, it's my dana 44 front.

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  6. Pugsley

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    Drag!!! Anyone got a left-hand output NP208??[​IMG] - Maybe just convert it to TTB and be done with it[​IMG]. The Balljoints are fairly recent, as is everything else - I guess GM just never designed these housings for Robby Gordon-esque blasts across Sonora. Anyone want a dead 10 bolt?

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    MudStud: That adjustable sleeve that the upper balljoints goes into does NOT adjust camber. It merely sets the preload for the knuckle. The ONLY way to adjust camber is with those shims that go behind the spindle.

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    TTB? Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww!

    "Time to replace my tires."

    "You just did that yesterday!!!"

    "I know, but I have Ford's greatest creation ever, TTB. I'm used to it."

    Tim
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    There is a replacement sleeve that is off set to use for adjustment. Well it was onec anyway.

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    Sorry waxer, but there are offset adjuster sleeves that you can use to adjust caster or camber by 1 degree for sure and they may even make a 2 degree but not 100% on that one.

    I thought I was wrong once,
    but I was mistaken
     
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    TTB rules in the desert - tough, simple, tons of travel, and the best feature - adjustable camber bushings[​IMG]!!! If only there were an improved knuckle available for the 10 bolt[​IMG]

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    Northstar makes alignment bushings up to I believe 1.5 degrees in increments of 1/4 degree. It replaces the upper ball joint preload sleeve with a sleeve with a bigger opening and another sleeve with an offset hole that slides into it. I think they are about 10 bucks a piece at my work.

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    Dont be sorry...

    I'm speaking from an OEM perspective. I'm sure there are aftermarket parts out there that allow just about anything to happen. You go to Napa and ask for an upper balljoint and the sleeve that comes with it will not adjust camber.

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    Not as simple as a straight axle, not as much ground clearance, not as much flex, and if tires would last, it'd still be lacking in all these other departments.

    Many of my friends have Ford farm trucks. Great trucks, crappy TTB.

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     
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    Actually TTB's are just as simple as a straight axle, only 2 housing sections instead of one, and a removeable 3rd member. Not as flexy, but 22" of travel without major modifications? That's good with me. Tires aren't a big problem with one that's well maintained, and in good alignment - I got 40K out of a set of mud terrains on my last F150 before the wear got too weird. Like everything else, it's all a matter of application, ya know?

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    "Upper ball joint pre-load adjment sleeve". Should really be call a "Upper ball joint stud-seat height adjustment sleave".

    The sleave is "pre-loaded" to the stud/axle yoke, to set the distance between the upper and lower ball-joints stud seats.
    So, think of "pre-loading" is how the height is set.

    Caster/Camber sleaves are avalible, but are not G.M. parts.
    They are avalible up to 1.5 degrees total adj. For example :1.5 deg total caster or 1.5 deg total camber, or half/half like .75 deg caster and .75 deg camber. And everything binbetween.
    They are sold in 1/4 deg segmemts. Like .50 deg - .75 deg - 1.0 deg.

    Ford's Twin-Traction Beam suspension systems are a tool of the Devil....Sorry Pugs&lt;img src="http://coloradok5.com/forums/images/icons/smile.gif"&gt;

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    <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Twiztid on 01/22/02 06:02 PM.</FONT></P>
     
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    who is northstar and where can you find these shims?
    local parts store?
     
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    Northstar sells alignment tools and parts to alignment shops. You may not be able to buy from them direct, but you can go to your local alignment shop and ask for their parts or something comparable.

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