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Can a rifle really do this? WARNING - EXTREMELY GORY PIC

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Can Can, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. Can Can

    Can Can Pusher Man Staff Member Super Moderator

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    WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE GORE!!!!!


    Anyhow, the link is to a page from Snopes. I already know that the two pics have nothing to do with eachother(YES, I read the article), but can a rifle or machine gun or whatever REALLY do that much damage to a human head??????

    I'm sure some of you military dudes could clear this up for me.....

    Click HERE if you dare.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    it is a .50 cal I'm surprised he has that much left.
     
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    I've seen what a 25mm can do so Id say a .50 is capable of that much damage.
     
  5. Can Can

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    No. Read the description closely. The guys at Snopes have no information on what caused the damage to the dude's cranium.

    That's why I asked if a rifle COULD do that much damage. For all I know his head was squashed when he was was run over by a tank.......:confused:
     
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    Desert Rat Fetch the comfy chair

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    Ok all you budding Crime Scene Investigators.....a quick evidenciary quiz:
    1. If he was shot in the head, what was his position when he was shot?
    2. What can you deduce from the amount of blood and brain matter and it's locaton? How far out is the radius of brain matter and it's relation to where his head is?
     
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    I have personally seen a .45ACP do almost identical damage to a human head. This pic looks more like a coup de gras shot than a sniper shot. Typical one shot to the head to insure no fakers who will kill you when you turn your back.
     
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    It appears to me that his head was run over by a vehicle. One thing I do know for certain though......he's definately dead. :crazy:
     
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    if that was a 50 BMG shot to the head, it was probably a nick. Hard to image that big of a bullet traveling that fast leaving that much of his head/neck intact.

    j
     
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    Gross man, gross

    Center mass all the way, leave a good looking corpse for the family
     
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    I would give an educated guess leaning towards being run over and squashed due to the flatness of the head and the popped out brain matter... .50 cal wouldn't have left nearly that much behind.
     
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    is it just me but the rifle dose NOt look like a .50bmg.

    it looks like something much bigger.

    nope never mine this is the rifle: M82A1 rifle, current version
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    I have read storys of snipers comenting on a 50 tearing a man in half.

    hell at least it wasent this note .50 cal bmg on top
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    NOTE it a truck ren over him there would ba a track on the ground
     
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    I would have taught it would have blowin his head clear off and yes it can do that
     
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    Can a rifle do that much damage? Yes.
    Did a .50 BMG do that? No. A .50 would have done way more damage.

    Click here to see what a .50 does to smaller critters.

    I don't know what the guy on PoOR said b/c I almost never go there, but I'd guess that damage is more consistant with being run over or squashed somehow.

    Barrett makes the rifle in question.
     
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    I'll bite,

    Judging by the photo, The entry wound looks to be if it entered around his nasal cavity, being that there is no existing evidence of one there. If the suicide bomber was stading when he took the hit, I think there would be a different blood stain, not so much of a circle around the wound on the ground. More like a triangle (from what I can tell by the photo....) It looks to me that the Iraqi was shot, but from the position on his back where he is seen in the photo due to the radius of the brain matter in relation to where he head is. But it doesn't make sense that he would be laying on the ground in the first place... Plus there would be less skull and brain matter on the ground if he was standing when he was shot.

    Maybe he head was just squashed by a tank or just hit in the head by a BF hammer...
     
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    I will agrea DDDEEEAAADDD
     
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    Also it's not the size of the implement that matters most it's how it is used. ;) You can get some pretty interesting results from lower caliber bullets as well. I have seen what a .222 bolt action will do to a woodchuck @ 400 yards. A well loaded shell with a balistic tip @ 400 yards leaves you with a nice gutless woodchuck :grin:
     
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    A well-placed .30cal rifle round at close-to-medium range will do that much damage to a human head.
    A .50BMG round will erase a human head at nearly any range.

    I have seen aftermath photos of a suicide-by-rifle in a van's driver seat; the only thing left of the head was the lower jaw and a flap of the right side of the face. The rifle butt had been placed on the floor by the gas pedal, and the muzzle was placed in the mouth. The round exited the van over the driver's left shoulder. The Medical Examiner stated the muzzle blast probably did as much damage as the bullet itself. It was ugly...

    My impressions of the photo:
    It was probably a sniper, using a 7.62 NATO round (aka .308 Winchester, if you didn't know). Snipers get to use hollowpoints and other"specialty" rounds that us garden-variety pogues don't. I don't know for certain ('cause I've never been in combat), but I don't think a ball round (aka FMJ) would do that to a head unless the shot was taken "danger-close", which to me is inside 50yds for rifle. Especially not a 5.56 NATO (aka .223 Remington, which is what the M16 and M249 SAW fire). The shot was probably taken from a few hundred yards away, and judging from the splatter and nearly "half-and-half" split of the head, nearly head-on.
    This definitely isn't a case of being run-over by a vehicle; there's no tire tracks in the blood or on the body, and any tracked vehicle would've made hamburger of it.
     
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    .50 was not used on that website. They used a .223, 22-250 and a .17 HMR. Read the FAQ.
     

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