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can someone give me a comprehensive list of what i would need...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by colbystephens, May 1, 2006.

  1. colbystephens

    colbystephens 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    if i were to swap to a 465 in place of my 700r4 which is behind a 6.2 diesel, what are all of the parts i would need to round up? this is my dd, so it can't be down too long and my 700 is shot. i'm not familiar w/ trannies, particularly manual trannies, so i'm not familiar w/ all the parts i would need. anyway, thanks!
     
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    if its your dd i wouldnt swap a 465 behind the 6.2. reason being is the 465 shift spread and 6.2 rpm range arent the most compatible. Also with no od and a 6.2, and what i imagine are 4.10's youd be screaming on the higway. with a 6.2 you should be shooting for about 2000 roms at cruise speed.

    personally id go for a bowties overdrives 700r4. Great comapny with quality products. pricey though

    Now all that being said im a huge fan of the 465. i have one in my project truck and would not hesitate to put one behind a 6.2, just not with low gears and it being a dd.
     
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    what you would need is:
    tranny/ tcase
    drive lines (either reworked or new ones/ come from a k5 with same setup)
    clutch
    flywheel,
    clutch pedal (maybe brake or you can cut your pedal. You dont need the whole brake assembly, you can just run a longer bolt)
    bellhousing (mechanical or hydraulic)
    Mechanical linkage
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    hydraulic setup
    slave cylinder, master cylinder, hose resivoir
     
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    colbystephens 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    what do you mean by "screaming"? what is the gear ratio of the 4th gear?
     
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    what are you gear ratios in the axles? and what size tires you running?
     
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    4.10 w/ 35's
     
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    If your tires are a true 35" (which i doubght they are, prolly more like 33-34") youd be at 2800 rpms at 70mph. Its not too bad but defiently not ideal for a 6.2 remember the redline is only mid 3000's. id try to keep it from 2000-2250 rpms at your cruise speed.
     
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    i only drive 60 for the fuel economy - what's that put my rpms at?
     
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    Honestly id go with a 700r4, and drive 65. get the motro in the sweet spot and the transmisson will last a lil longer, you wont strain the od as much.
     
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    why not swap in the NV4500? that is just like the SM465 but with a 5th gear overdrive.
     
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    umm yeah...got 1500 for a tranny then everything else hed need...not to mention finding one...
     
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    yeah, that's a little beyond me right now.
     
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    A 465 isn't all that bad even behind a 6.2 trustyK5 can vouch more for this....Forget about another slushbox and do it right this time go 465
    You need tranny-and applicable t-case, a hole in the tranny hump, pedals (manual or hydro) --go hydro and kiss the other headaches goodbye-- flywheel and a clutch set, later on convert the column
     
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    out of curiosity - is a flywheel for the diesel different from the flywheel for the gasser? no one seems to have given me a definite answer on this yet.
     
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    yes the diesel has a specific flywheel
     
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    And hes building a 4500 to make it mroe streetable. although he does daily drive it now. It will costmore money to go 465 now though, i almost gaurantee it. unless you come across a great deal. the little things add up.
     
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    I think it'll be 6 of one, half dozen of the other as far as cost goes initially. 465/205 is a $250 combo tops. However, going hydro clutch right away would be best which is going to drive the cost up a bit. A hydro set-up is gonna run another $150 or so and then there is the master and slave which should be new for peace of mind.

    Flywheel, clutch and pressure plate will run another $500 (high side, but probably a good number for budgeting)

    Drivelines will need lengthening and shortening, probably another $250.

    My 6.2 hums along at ~2600 rpm on the highway and still returns 16.5 mpg on bias TSL's. 2350 on radials is going to be decent enough IMO.

    Frankly I'd donate my 465/205 to the cause including bellhousing, but firstly i still need it until late July and secondly it's a mechanical clutch bell. Hell, I'd throw in my driveshafts too, although the rear one does need balancing.

    Rene
     
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    why not just rebuild the 700? i rebuilt mine for around 500 or so, including a reman converter, shift kit and deep trans pan. (already had aux trans cooler) add a couple of hours labor to that to have it rebuilt if you dont have the know-how. would also be cheaper to bring it to somebody, rather than the whole truck. r&r the thing yourselff to save some cash.
     
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    if only my tranny would last until july - i'd drive up and get it from you. :D
     

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