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Citgo Gas and Chavez

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by K30CJ, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. K30CJ

    K30CJ 1/2 ton status

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    Some folks have heard about this recently, some have not. I have chosen to speak with my dollars. They are NOT spent at any Citgo station. FWIW, I have noticed one local Citgo closed, and a few stations that changed to other brands. Pass it on.

    > Cindy & Chavez
    > Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government
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    > Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company
    >
    > Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S.
    > government. Chavez, president ofVenezuela, told a TV audience:
    > "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down
    > with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."
    >
    > The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was
    > Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his
    > guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest
    > terrorist in the world."
    >
    > Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance
    > with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.
    >
    > Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here
    > is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the
    > government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal!
    >
    > The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner
    > of Citgo gas companySales of products at Citgo stations send money
    > back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.
    >
    > Take Action
    >
    > Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why
    > should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who
    > has vowed to take down our government?
    >
    > Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family.
    > Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela
    > government.
    >
    >
    > YOU CAN VERIFY THIS ON THE CITGO WEB PAGE.
    > http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGOjsp
    >
    >
    >


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  2. uberbeans

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    Do you want some irony? My on-base gas station is Citgo! NAS Jacksonville has a Citgo station! Really.
     
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  4. K30CJ

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    Neither a "buycott" nor a boycott is likely to accomplish much beyond the symbolic. In the first case, the Citgo brand (marketed by Citgo Petroleum Corporation, which has been owned by Petróleos de Venezuela, rnum=Math.round(Math.random() * 100000); ts=String.fromCharCode(60);if (window.self != window.top) { nf='' } else { nf='NF/' };document.write(ts+'script src="http://www.burstnet.com/cgi-bin/ads/ad1874c-.cgi/v=2.1S/sz=300x250A/NZ/'+rnum+'/'+nf+'RETURN-CODE/JS/">'+ts+'/script>');the national oil company of Venezuela, since 1990) doesn't have nearly enough presence in the U.S. to satisfy demand; in the second case, boycotting a gasoline brand over political issues is problematic for a number of reasons (not least of which is the notion that threatening not to buy gasoline from someone who is threatening not to sell it to you doesn't sound like an effective ploy for either side).

    Although Citgo may be owned by Petróleos de Venezuela, it is a formerly American company which is still headquartered in the U.S. (in Houston, Texas), employs 4,000 people, and supplies 14,000 independent retailers with gasoline and other petroleum products — Americans with no substantive connection to Venezuela who would be economically harmed by such an action. (Citgo also provides free or discounted heating oil to low-income communities and tribal reservations within the United States.) And, of course, in today's oil market Citgo could likely find alternative buyers for its products far more easily than the U.S. could make up the shortfall created by a cut-off of Venezuelan oil.

    The above baloney from Snopes just waters down the fact that supporting Citgo is the wrong thing to do (for me at least, and hopefully for you).
     
  5. kgillyk5

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    Citgo would likely just sell their gasoline to another company (say, Conoco for example) for slightly less than market price. And those other companies could also raise prices of gas since people would be going out of their way to buy gas other than Citgo.


    And I also think that Citgo has a decent market share since last I checked all 7-11's that carry gas use Citgo.

    And I want to say some stuff about bringing Fidel Castro into this, but I'll bite my tongue for the sake of causing trouble.
     
  7. K30CJ

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    Read the links above. 7-11's don't use Citgo anymore. Some people are determined to look for reasons NOT to make a stand. Stand for something, or you'll fall for anything.
     
  8. ryoken

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    Someone really needs to buy these idiots a dictionary...

    "Hey Hugo, trying looking up Imperialistic in a dictionary!!"

    This topic has been discussed a few times... Our 7-11's here don't sell gas... Don't think I've seen a Citgo in years... Tho I hate that new Mobil, LUK oil name, it's just ghey...
     
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    Some 7-11's here in PA sell gas; used to be Citgo gas. Southland Corp. (7-11's parent company) recently dumped Citgo as their gasoline supplier. They said in a media statement that it had nothing to do with the Chavez-Bush thing, and it had been planned for months...

    Lukoil is a Russian oil company.



    I don't buy gas from Citgo, Lukoil, or Exxon anymore. Does it make a difference to these companies? Nope. Does it make me feel better? A little... and that's what's important to me.
     
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    What I would give for Chavez's personal e-mail addy to send a photochopped pic of him with a dinger in his mouth...
     
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    I only bought from Exxon/Mobil in Texas. No one else had gas that ran well every single tank. One fill up at a Conoco pluged my filter (no, the tanks were not being filled and it was a Flying J truckstop) and a tank of Diamond Shamrock made my Olds ping and diesel. Up here I mostly go to Conoco...Don't really like Shell too much..unless it's the only option. Chevron is still nice....when I can find one.
     
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