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Clear Channel pays almost $2 million to the FCC

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by newyorkin, Jun 9, 2004.

  1. newyorkin

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122202,00.html

    Probably not that interesting to most folks, but I find it interesting. Clear Channel is very powerful in radio. Their position on stuff like this is significant...
     
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    Do you find it odd that on a Friday Howard Stern said that we needed to vote for Kerry, Bush has got to go, and then on Monday he is off of Clear Channel stations? A little research will show closely the Bush adminisration is linked to Clear Channel. It works like this - Bush lets clear channel monopolize the radio stations and concert market and in return clear channel caters to the needs of bush.

    To sum it up: Fine = legal payoff for allowing a monopoly.

    Just another way for the Bush administration to control what you hear and don't hear.


    BTW - Howard Stern broke NO law, just another scary thing that our TOO powerful government has gotten away with.
     
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    Please share your research because that sounds like one of the biggest conspiracy theories I have ever heard /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    Do you find it odd that on a Friday Howard Stern said that we needed to vote for Kerry, Bush has got to go, and then on Monday he is off of Clear Channel stations? A little research will show closely the Bush adminisration is linked to Clear Channel. It works like this - Bush lets clear channel monopolize the radio stations and concert market and in return clear channel caters to the needs of bush.

    To sum it up: Fine = legal payoff for allowing a monopoly.

    Just another way for the Bush administration to control what you hear and don't hear.


    BTW - Howard Stern broke NO law, just another scary thing that our TOO powerful government has gotten away with.

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    Do you find it odd that on a Friday Howard Stern said that we needed to vote for Kerry, Bush has got to go, and then on Monday he is off of Clear Channel stations? A little research will show closely the Bush adminisration is linked to Clear Channel. It works like this - Bush lets clear channel monopolize the radio stations and concert market and in return clear channel caters to the needs of bush.

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    Thats hilarious.....and who told you about this top secret scheme?

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    The maximum fine for breaking indecency laws is $27,500 for each violation, but the House has voted to raise the cap to $500,000 and to require the FCC to consider revoking a broadcaster's license after three indecency violations. Similar legislation is pending in the Senate.

    Federal law bars radio stations and over-the-air television channels from airing references to sexual and excretory functions between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., when children may be tuning in. The rules do not apply to cable and satellite channels or satellite radio.

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    It wouldnt be that the FCC is actually doing there job would it? /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    Actually, it was shortly after the Janet Jackson thing. Everybody in broadcasting got freaked out, and Clear Channel reacted loudly by yanking stern. I think that was 90% to show "We don't want to piss anybody off any more than we already do". They had already fired "Bubba the love sponge" for "indecency".

    Stern is a monkey. He stands there yapping about free speech when his free speech is not being denied. Being a radio DJ does not mean you have free speech to say what you want on the air. We have free speech on ColoradoK5, yet moderators are legally allowed to censor our posts. We should get stern to explain that free speech dilemma...
     
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    Probably not that interesting to most folks, but I find it interesting. Clear Channel is very powerful in radio. Their position on stuff like this is significant...



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    The AM station (conservative talk radio) I listen to is owned by Clear Channel, one of the morning hosts is always
    irritated that Clear Channel is paying these fines without fighting them just so they dont get any bad publicity. This is normal for large companies to simply pay the small fines to the Feds cause its much cheaper than fighting the Feds. Unless a company really wants to stand on principle or the fine will hurt their bottom line they wont fight it.
     
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    Bush Stuff

    I really don't want to get deep into this, especially because there are so many uninformed die hard republicans here that will likely not even consider anything I say and will definitly never go out on their own and read something and have enough nerve to voice their own opinion, anti-conformist is just not the republican way.

    Basically, after bankrupting several oil companies in Texas Bush was given a small percent of some close-to-worthless baseball team as a "buy-out" of his part in the companies. Later, Lowry Mays of clear channel gave bush $14 million for his small share of the team, making him an instant millionaire. Now, bush and powel work together, and appoint powel's son, Micheal, as head of the fcc, who lets clear channel very quickly form a monopoly by expiditing paperwork for radio station purchases and concert venues (at the same time holding up and "losing" paperwork of others who try to buy stations), in return clear channel will not broadcast any anti-bush material. Howard Stern had a caller use the "N" word (which is not illegal to broadcast - remember only a court can make something illegal - not the FCC) and the FCC decides to fine clear channel for Howard's indecency therefore clear channel can say 'hey, we gotta fire you', which is a scam to get him off of the air. The fine is what pays for Michael powels 1st class airfare to Las Vegas or New Orleans where all of the "closed door meetings" of the fcc take place. Believe it or not - in a Casio! How convienent. Why can't they have the meetings in washington in one of the many buildings that taxpayers have paid for? It would be free then. So, since clear channel pays the fine, it justifies getting howard off the air, pays for michael powels vacations in whick he returns the favor by allowing a monopoly. They are all scratching each other's backs.

    Edit - I think that Kerry is just as much of a douche bag as bush, I am not a left wing extremist.
     
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    See I look at that website and I saw something that makes me not want to even read any of the other stuff on there. Maybe theres some good info on there I dont know. Heres what I saw "Bush & Hitler ? - Added 3/29/04". OK so what if Bush's Grandfather or whatever was a Nazi. What does that have to do with him? My family owned slaves does that make me a slave owner? Liberals cant ever get anything real on anyone. They just go talk [darn] about the other guy. Maybe we should look into Kerry's family tree and see what bad thing his ancestors did so that we can use it against him. Liberals put too much feelings in politics. When you run something like a country sometimes you have to go against your feelings to protect and do whats right for the nation.

    Nick
     
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    I agree with you there on the Hitler/slave thing. I don't always agree with with or beleive what I see or read, and I enjoy having the freedom to decide that on my own. The government would like to take that away from us and decide what we need to know.

    At least Kerry had enough balls to fight in the war (even though he new it was wrong) while Bush's dad kept him out of it. Who is he to send people to war? He has no idea what it is like because the chicken$hit was hiding!
     
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    Dude, Clear Channel Communications took over most of the airwaves in Amercia LONG before Dubbaya was even running for office. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif It's been several years since the FCC rules on radio station ownerhship changed. As soon as the rules changed, CCC started buying up every building in the country that had a transmitter and antenna. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Last I knew, they owned over 1,100 media outlets. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif They're also hugely profitable...
     
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    It is had to reseach anything thing on Clear Channel or Bush, mostly because they operate so secretively. You are right that they were large before bush, but have grown tremendously since. The FCC has held up and "lost" paperwork when Viacom, the parent company of Infinity Broadcasting, was trying to buy radio stations.

    Republican or Democrat, I don't trust either.
     
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    clear channel was snooping around our store today looking for advertising space, a worker at the shed dealer on the same property told him where to shove his advertising and threw him off the property. When the guy tried to talk to him he simply said, "no you pull stern off the air you are no good by me". And the whole Stern thing wasn't because of Janet Jackson, he was being watched like he always is I forget what he said but he was pulled from many stations due to a comment he made a while back. Our Local station was still playing him last I knew but maybe they pulled him now too(since I think all the Philly stations are Clear Channel owned).
     
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    You are right that they were large before bush, but have grown tremendously since.

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    This is incorrect and non-factual. They were just about done buying and were actually beginning to sell properties because of monopoly investigations by the Justice Dept BEFORE Bush was elected, in 1998 and 1999. When Bush was elected, the empire had already been established. If G Dubya did provide Lowry any breaks, they weren't in regard to acquisitions.

    But you're right, there are quite a few people out there that have thier mind made up without any facts.

    If Stern wasn't really pulled because of indecency, I think it's unlikely he was pulled for politics. Howard Stern is controversial, and Clear Channel has been trying to avoid controversy. Bubba the Love Sponge was pulled off the air for an indecency stunt before Stern, and Clear Channel was fined almost $1 million for that. Bubba was fired.

    The FCC has been talking about raising the fine per indecency incident from $27K to $500K. Wouldn't it make more sense to get a fine-magnet like stern off your table of responsibility?

    If CC and the FCC were buddy buddy enough, I think the fine increase would be pushed down more.
     
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    " anti-conformist is just not the republican way." Hmmm, seems as a republican I'm as non-conformist as you can be nowadays. I reject and oppose humanism/Darwinism/communism/socialist ideology/abortion/and rap crap. I'm reeeaaaaly a repulican rebel, as I don't worship the "state" and I respect God's Laws. Indeed, this makes me an idolater in the eyes of those who look to the civil government for all relief.

    As far as Mr. Stern goes, free speech does not include promoting all types of perverse behavior for hearers. Yeah, I can change the channel. But the overlooked obscure point is to consider the preciousness of a listener...whether in a room or over airwaves. This may seem stupid to "Mr. Blazer" but the Founders considered all indeceny the wrong path. America had a great start, but look where we are after 20 years of MTV.
     
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    I really don't want to get deep into this, especially because there are so many uninformed die hard republicans here that will likely not even consider anything I say and will definitly never go out on their own and read something and have enough nerve to voice their own opinion, anti-conformist is just not the republican way.


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    That's a mighty long sentence! Its normal for someone who is debating something without substance to not want to get deep into it, its the good old liberal way....attack and then back off not wanting to get "deep".......so rest assured, you are acting exactly like the rest of you Bush hating "anti-conformists". Whew, I think I just made a sentence about as long as yours with about as much susbstance /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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    Last I knew, they owned over 1,100 media outlets.

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    Is a billboard considered a "media outlet"? 'Cause just about every friggin' billboard I see anymore has "Clear Channel" at the bottom of it. There's probably 100+ in the Philadelphia/Trenton area alone...
     
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    Unless a company really wants to stand on principle or the fine will hurt their bottom line they wont fight it.

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    You got it! If I were ClearChannel and just posted something like 110 Million profit in the first quarter, I'd pay the fine, BFD, its not worth the cost to fight.
     
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    And all you democrats said he was a stupid monkey.

    How could a stupid monkey take over the world, or monopolize communications?

    Better keep sticking to your stories! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

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    Do you find it odd that on a Friday Howard Stern said that we needed to vote for Kerry, Bush has got to go, and then on Monday he is off of Clear Channel stations? A little research will show closely the Bush adminisration is linked to Clear Channel. It works like this - Bush lets clear channel monopolize the radio stations and concert market and in return clear channel caters to the needs of bush.

    To sum it up: Fine = legal payoff for allowing a monopoly.

    Just another way for the Bush administration to control what you hear and don't hear.


    BTW - Howard Stern broke NO law, just another scary thing that our TOO powerful government has gotten away with.

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    *GASP*


    OH MY GOSH .... GEORGE BUSH IS TAKING OVER THE WORLD.







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