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Computer Gurus - what anti virus / internet security do you use?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Eric M., Apr 13, 2006.

  1. Eric M.

    Eric M. 1/2 ton status

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    I have Norton / Symantec and there are quite a few compatibility issues with other programs. I was told to try McAfee but their site is such a mess I can't even download their solftware (several links for ActiveX install are missing on their site). I'm kinda thinking if they can't even manage to sell their software correctly, I doubt they're really able to keep up with their virus definitions either.

    What all do you guys use??

    Thanks,

    Eric M.
     
  2. 73k5blazer

    73k5blazer Unplug the matrix cable from the back of your head Premium Member

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    I use Common Sense(TM).
    I've never run that so-called "anti-virus" software.Does nothing but crap up your machine with all kinds of running processes, re-routes mail and other incoming/outgoing traffic slowing down your extranet traffic. A waste of money and resources. By the time the big "Security" companies find a nasty worm or virus and manage to find a way to fix it, it's too late for 80% of web users.

    Use your brain, don't open exe,doc,xls attachments from where you don't know they came, don't download stuff from scrupulous sites, and most importantly don't use Internet Exploder or Outlook, the 2 biggest known security risks known to mankind. Backup your important stuff regularly, including the registry. So you can alwasy go back quickly if you need to.
    I've never had a virus in my life, well ok, once. But it was my fault, I wasn't paying attention.
     
  3. Jagged

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    I don't use any Antivirus or Anti-Spyware at all.

    Almost all virii and spyware is for Windows. I use Linux.
     
  4. 73k5blazer

    73k5blazer Unplug the matrix cable from the back of your head Premium Member

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    O yeah, thats my other secret. I use my AIX machine for 90% of web browsing, while I'm at home anyway.
    But my wife uses the main win box at home, and I use my win laptop while travelling for work (which I'm on now), no virus' to speak of.....
     
  5. jays68yak

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    adware, and spybot everyonce in a blue moon. The best thing that I have found is zone alarm. Its more of a software firewall but it helps. Also run firefox and not IE.
     
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    worst advice ever.


    would you tell someone to forget about maintaining their car, and having it regulary serviced? sure you and me may be able to dodge virus with some know how ... but not everone has that knowhow.


    avg : free.grisoft.com its free :) will keeep things out ... but has a horrible trackrecord of cleaning things should you already be infected. very low system impact

    windows firewall: better than 90% of firewalls out there. don't listed to the anti-M$ bandwagon kids when they say i'm wrong. at least windows firewall is block by default, and no known to randomly block things you've set to allow. also has allow by program, which is nice for the less technical who dont know how to figure out what port something needs open.
     
  7. 73k5blazer

    73k5blazer Unplug the matrix cable from the back of your head Premium Member

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    I never said not to change the oil, merely to avoid hitting potholes while your driving.

    I just really don't think it's nessesary if you just watch what your doing.
    A matter of opinion, for sure. I've been in IT for the last 15 years, and trust me, it's not nessesary. If you don't mind the slowing down, the constant updates, and the wondering if it's not working because of your firewall security solution, then it sure can't hurt you.

    The not using IE would be my step no. 1.
    Windows firewall, ok. To restritive for my uses so I never really finished evaluating it.
    The first thing most users don't do is backup. Backup, backup, backup. So if anything ever did happen, at least you got your important stuff. Re-loading windows and software is no-biggie in the end. Anit-virus/security solutions are by no means a reason to think you don't need to backup.

    Oh, BTW, AIX is not for kids.:wink1:
     
  8. CustomChevy

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    Unless that backup is infected with the same virus you just cleaned :o

    for someone who works with AIX, and has been around the block a few times you really seems to like to buy the media hype about AV slowing you down.

    you want to know the truth, before i installed AVG I 3dmarked around 4000 - 4200 ... after that dropped a whopping 50-75 points on average. Not a big speed hit at all, and its worth it for the piece of mind that nothing is getting in.


    Its not just attachments and IE you have to fear. with the advent of activeX (you did know firefox supports this), c# (wonderful language ... but its going to be a hackers toy for many years) and all the other web enabled technologies, even surfing the net can render you infected.

    Heres the advice. If you can't tell me the names of the last 5 major virus threats, and how to clean them. YOU NEED ANTI-VIRUS.
     
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    I use AVG free edition
     
  10. wasted wages

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    I use McAfee "on-line" company wide and at home. Never have had a problem.
     
  11. 73k5blazer

    73k5blazer Unplug the matrix cable from the back of your head Premium Member

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    Well, hopefully you've implmented a backup solution where you take 1 every week/month whatever, and not overwriting your previous, so then you just keep going back until your not infected.


    Media hype? I wasn't aware the media said that AV slows down your machine. All I see is the media hype using scare tatics trying to scare people into thinking they need it.
    "Your at risk" "Hackers can steal your data" "You could lose everything" "You NEED our solution"

    I think it boils to a matter of opinion. Mabey there's better ones out there now, than the last time I checked them out. The ones I tried a few years back blew chunks, don't remember the names the big 2 and like 4 or 5 others. I'm no windows expert though, that's for sure.

    My first opinion stands. It is not nessesary if you just watch what your doing, which doesn't take any technical know how, just common sense.
     
  12. jarheadk5

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    I'm not a computer guru by any stretch of the imagination, but I'll throw my opinion in the ring anyway...

    AV - I'm currently using McAfee AV 2006 on my laptop (primary machine). I used to use Norton AV Pro before my HDD crashed; it was the '04 version that I upgraded online to '05. Didn't like the reviews NAV was getting on cnet.com for their '06 product, so I went different. I like that McAfee seems to update more often than Norton did (McAfee - every day or two; Norton - every 3-5 days).
    I tried the AVG free version and did not like it. The computer I tried it on has 2 HDD's; one is partitioned so there's 3 drive letters total. I could not find a way to see whether all 3 drives were being scanned, or a way to select multiple drives to scan. Updates used all the system's resources and, for all intents & purposes, locked me out until it was done. Granted, it was a slow machine (350MHz AMD K6/2, Win98, 128MB RAM), but no other AV software I ran on it bogged it down that badly.

    Firewall - ZoneAlarm freebie. Works fine for me. I do the LeakTest and the other firewall checks at grc.com periodically, and they still tell me I'm good.

    Adware/spyware - I use AdAware and SpybotSD every couple weeks. I update the definitions weekly, and before I run a scan. Make sure to select all your drive letters in the Options screens if you have multiple drives and/or partitions.



    Whether you agree or disagree with 73k5blazer's views on antivirus software, I personally agree with, and highly recommend, his basic points:

    1. Be aware of what you download/open, and where you go.
    --- This is (should be) common sense. If you go porn-surfing indiscriminately, you're gonna get infected with something... just like in real-life!

    2. BACK-UP YOUR DATA!
    --- I lost irreplaceable pictures of beloved pets that are no longer with us, and pics from when my wife and I were in Italy a couple years ago, when my HDD crashed. Even worse was that I had about a week's warning that things were going south with the computer... but I didn't heed the warning. Never again. Blank CD's are cheap, and sometimes your data is priceless - burn 'em.

    Again, these are my opinions. Don't like 'em? Don't follow 'em! :waytogo:
     
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    I use kaspersky anti-virus along with zonealarm free edition firewall. I also implement ad-aware and spybot S&D. I also use winpatrol for keeping crap from changing my registry or running on startup without my permission. On top of that i run Hijack this regularly.
     
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    Housecall...
     
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    Anti virus is a must!!!!!!

    I use AVG for antivirus and spybot and adaware for spywear.

    Using Firefox is also a good way to protect yourself.

    I'm not a norton fan.
     
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    Geez, I just read my post and do I ever sound paranoid/anal about my puters?? lol
     
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    I just call the Nerd Patrol at Best Buy. After a couple of months of surfing porn sites, and clicking "yes" to every thing, my computer starts acting funny. Sometimes, I even see the curser on my computer start moving on its own, and opening the file titled "Credit Card Numbers". By the way, what is an Anti-virus? :D
     
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    I think thats the first funny thing I've ever heard you say. :eek1:
     

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