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connecting solid copper to stranded copper question

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by R77K10, May 4, 2006.

  1. R77K10

    R77K10 Banned

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    whats the best/safest way to join solid to stranded ? im connecting a couple flourescent lights up before they jack the electric rates up, so..

    i was thinking crimpable wing nuts would be the way to go

    how do you figure out what size ones you need though


    thanks
     
  2. mofugly13

    mofugly13 1 ton bucket of rust Premium Member

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    Wingnuts, or wirenuts are fine. How many wires you trying to fit under one? Yellows can take up to three #12, reds will take up to five #12. If you get the actual Ideal brand Wingnuts, the reds will be fine for two to five #12. If you get the soft plastic Scotchloks, get yellows for two to three wires, and reds for three to five. I don't like Scotchloks, the hard plastic wingnuts are the bomb.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, when splicing a stranded wire to a solid one, make sure the stranded one sticks out a little farther than the solid one on the end. 1/16 to 1/8 inch is fine. Wire nuts sometimes have a tendency to push the stranded wire out as you screw them down if the ends are even when you screw the nut on. Always pull on your wires after you feel the wirenut is secured, to make sure you have a good splice.
     
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    R77K10 Banned

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    hey Matt thanks, never heard of Ideal but im gonna try to find them first, but out here in cornfields no-where central IL theres not much of anything lol except two very small lumberyards and uhm a farm supply, thats it


    so youre saying the hard plastic ones are better than the ones that you can crimp after twisting ?

    im only going to be putting one 12 or 14 guage solid to a 16 or 18 guage stranded

    so im confused ?

    thanks for any further :D
     
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    we have ideal at home depot
     
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    Ideal

    I like to wrap electrical tape on the wire nuts, opposite rotation to keep them from backing off, plus no chance off touching bare wire. Later J.

    Thanks for the tip on the edit, didn't know that!!
     
  6. mofugly13

    mofugly13 1 ton bucket of rust Premium Member

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    Ideal is just a brand. For hooking up fixtures, like the #18 to #14 or #12, get the little orange ones, they are the perfect size for hooking up fixtures. The hard plastic yellow ones will work too. The soft plastic ones are Skotch Brand Skotchloks, can be a pain in the ass to get a good connection, and once you use one, if you take it off, sometimes they are impossible to get back on. I just stick with the hard plastic coated ones, Ideal Wingnuta, Skotchlok Wire Nuts, or the like. If you are confused, just look at the box or package, theres a chart to tell you how many and of what size wires you can use them on.
     
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    we have ideal and some brand called brennan i think? the supply all our splices and disconnects, roach clips stuff like that
    i know it starts with a "b" just dont rember the whole name
     

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