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Cryogenicly treat your axles...not a joke!

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by BIGRIG, Sep 19, 2001.

  1. BIGRIG

    BIGRIG 1/2 ton status

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    I just read the new PHR and they had an article about this....pretty cool[​IMG] stuff man. $2.50 per pound is a little pricey though...maybe new parts.
    They said it can almost double the life of some parts. Sweet! Think... A dana60 or 14 bolt EVEN stronger than they are.....oooohhhyeaaa!


    Chris


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  2. rocko

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    They do this to Gun Barrel's for the Military to make them last longer..

    I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. www.rocko.rockcrawler.com
     
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    someone on another forum says he does it to brake rotors and they last forever.. Ive heard of it done to other stuff with amazing results.. first one that comes to mind is a bic razor that never goes dull.. thats pretty neat stuff

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    Yeah the Supra guy's love that stuff. The do Turbo's, Cranks, cams, Rods, Bearings. Something about the molecules lining up and resisiting micro scopic pits and cracks.

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  5. jarheadk5

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    There's companies you can send your gun barrels to and have this cryo treatment done.
    But it's gotta be done right, or it's a waste of time &amp; money.


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    We have this done to our softball bats [​IMG]. It does help.

    89 K5 Silverado
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    Where did ya get the info on this... I wanna find a place local to me and get some stuff done if I can swing it....

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    PHR???
     
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    Popular Hot Rodding. It's a magazine for motorheads. [​IMG]

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    They take your parts and cryogenically freeze them, then thaw then freeze... etc.. etc.. It's supposed to line up the molecules and in return makes your part a lot stronger.

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    We Cryo many of the parts on our Class 8 race truck (sorry it's a Ford) and have a sponsorship with Cryogenic Science Works in the San Diego area (760) 532-3077. If you want to use them tell Roger that Ramsey sent you. What they do is freeze the parts in a Nitrogen chamber for 24 hours or so and then bring them back to normal temp. slowly. The idea is that as compounds cool they contract forcing the molecules into alignment and relieving microscopic voids and some impurities. It is a hardening process. We have done everything from engine blocks, cranks, pistons to axles, R&amp;Ps, Spools and suspension components, springs, four link parts... I did the Pads and Rotors on my 90 Blazer, you know how fast they can burn up brakes, and so far they have created less brake dust and seem to be lasting longer. We had custom billet rotors made for the race truck before the Baja 2000 and they were Cryo'ed and showed no wear after 2000 race miles. In the past we couldn't get a set of cast rotors to last more than 1000 miles. Rotors wear faster than the pads by the way, with or CNC 6 piston calipers. I used to compete in Bench Rest Shooting and we found that Cryo'ing barrels and actions not only resulted in better barrel life but better accuracy as everything heated up it was more stable.

    By the way we ended up third in the 2000 after leading most of it, some crossthreaded lug nuts caused the rear hub to break apart. Check out the truck at: <a target="_blank" href=http://www.race-dezert.com/index1.html>http://www.race-dezert.com/index1.html</a>

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    From what I understand, part of the cryo treatment is completing heat treating processes that were somehow not finished. You can get steel structures that don't transform to what they're supposed to be after a quench operation and the freezing forces them to convert to what you were after in the first place. This indicates to me that the gains from cryo treatment depend quite a bit on the material and how it's processed. There's probably more to it than this one aspect though.

    I watched Sam Patton break a cryo'd stub at TTC and figured the money was wasted on a 30 spline stub, you might as well go to a 35 spline and work from there. Cryo treatment is probably down a ways on the list of ways to make something stronger.
    1st, make it bigger
    2nd, use better material
    3rd improve material

    Obviously these 3 get shuffled around a lot depending on circumstances, but for axleshafts which is what we're mostly concerned with, I think the order works.

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