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D60 TRaction aid?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by chiefheaphy, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. chiefheaphy

    chiefheaphy 1/2 ton status

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    Does anyone run or know the powerlock traction aid? THey are a bit cheaper and supposedly "less violent" than the detroit. I'm building a 90% trail rig on either 44" or 46"'s. Should I just go with the Detroit Locker or is the Power lock worth the money($400)?
     
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    2 sides to it..


    i went with the powertrax, im running 42's and a big block in a buggy with chromo shafts and flanges

    in a set up with bigger tires I would do the detroit..but your shafts will be in danger in sure!
     
  3. 1977k5

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    A powerlock is not a locker, its a limited slip.

    Why are you worried about "violent" engagement with a basically trail only rig? Any mechanical locker will be locked up all the time when you are in 4 low.

    Even if you have chromoly shafts and u-joints you will have trouble with gears and lockers breaking. A spool, detroit or ARB are really your only options IMO (they are listed in order of strength).
     
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    I have a regular limited slip and it sucks. I hate it. No traction on rocks at all...once one tire starts to slip then it takes a big dump right on your face. I heard a Power locker is not as lame as a regualr limited slip but I wouldn't chance it. Buy a detroit, ARB, OX lunch box locker...etc etc. etc Spend the money 1 time instead of twice.
     
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    and get chromo shafts or say bye bye with a built motor and a heavy right foot with 44's-46's
     
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    I would not even consider a lunchbox locker with 40" tires or bigger, the stock cast carrier will not hold up to it.
     
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    1977k5 3/4 ton status Vendor

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    Anyone would be lucky to get a 60 to hold up to 46's regardless of horsepower
     
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    very true. im just saying that chromos would make it more likely that they would survive for a little:D
     
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    Do you have any examples of a stock carrier breaking, any real life info. I would like more details as I was considering an aussie when they come out in 2050
     
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    I would personally do a Detroit. I have seen a lockright (by powertrax) brake with 42" tires and I have seen one live a long life with 40" tires. It is a crap shoot but with anything over 40" I would highly recommend a Detroit. I am not a fan of spools in the front & I am not a fan of ARB's therefore I am saying Detroit all the way. They are strong & reliable.

    Harley
     
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    Posi = limited slip = limited traction :p:

    My buddy had a Powr-Lok in his D80 Dodge. It would still let loose on deteriorated/deactivated logging roads (not rockcrawling by any means) so we found an open diff and got a Lockright for it.

    Traction is now as it should be. We figured the Lockright is cheap enough that nobody's going be crying if it don't last as long as a Detroit. Same reason I put one in my D60 front. (Detroit later if it expires). No more limited slip/traction for me thanks.
     
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    Isn't it true that with a detroit- or most any locker, if you break a shaft the sudden jarring will exploded the locker? I likely won't ever have $650 for a detroit so I'm considering welding it.
     
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    What kind of trails are you running with a 24" lift?
     
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    Mud, hills. Shallow Lakes/seas. Beach

    Prob not a lot of rock crwlin. I'll build another one for that.

    Since I was about 8 I've had a picture of this big bad blazer in my head so I have to build it so I can see it for real. Functionality will come with the next one.

    Ive got 4340 35 spliners. Sounds like Detroits front and rear is the way to go.

    Now im leanin to 44" boggers.
     
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    I've read about that quite a bit on Pirate. Haven't seen it for myself, but that would really suck! I've got a detroit in my 60 but I haven't really used it yet :haha:
     
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    You just didn't realize you were using it cuz you cruise over everything.:wink1:
     
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    I have snapped 3 GM 10 bolt front axles and have not broken my lockright yet. A lockright is weaker then a Detroit so I would not be to worried about breaking the Detroit.

    Chromo shafts in a D60 puts the axle breakage at a guess at best. If you have locking hubs it will be those most likely. If you have slugs then it is a gamble on whether it will be an axle, locker, R&P, or yoke.

    Harley
     
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    Word, I went through about 5 shafts/ujoint failures and 1 lockout with my lockright and 10b(reason for the upgrade lol). Lockright held up fine. It didn't take much to pop those 10b shafts though.

    Now I've got Yukon 35 sp outers and slugs in the detroited 60. Hopefully I don't find the weak link for a while. D60 parts are spendy:laugh:
     
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    what would be a good ratio to go with?

    i'm thinking somewhere in the 5.38 -- 5.86 range.

    ive got a bored 350(probably will go with a 454 down the road), sm465, 205.

    With 24" lift and 44 or 46 I can't see myself doin much more than 55mph.


    How difficult is it to install gears and locker?
     
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    If you have a 70 rear I would go with the deepest gear.
     

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