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Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?'s

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by zakk, Nov 22, 2001.

  1. zakk

    zakk 1/2 ton status

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    Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    wanted the blazer ready for the weekend hollister run, death wobble after 1 ton conversion is getting bad. went to 4WPW (needed parts fast) and got a Rancho 3/4 ton front stabelizer. guy SWORE it would work, well it doesn't. Any suggestions 4 a good stablizer?

    -Zakk
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  2. 84_Chevy_K10

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    My suggestion is fix the real problem, since apparently the band-aid fix didn't work.

    Time to replace drag link ends, tie rod ends, and make sure your wheel bearings are squared away. If it's still crappy, replace the steering box.

    It's my understanding that a good steering stabilizer can really help....but I've never replaced mine, it's nearly 20 years old, and I don't have any steering problems...no wandering or anything. You have to make sure your steering parts are good and fix the real problem--then you can enjoy using the steering stabilizer for what it's meant to do--not to hide bad parts in the front end.

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  3. KRAZIE87K5

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    Go for the TrailMaster PN 57201 coilover stabilizer. You can (KINDA[​IMG])see a pic ROCKYMOUNTAINSUSP.COM. Cost $86 with shipping to my door!

    Good luck!

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    You know what?!!! 84_Chevy_K10 is totally right too... I forgot that I already have brand new front susp. parts, so all the tie rods are true (straight), the ends are all tight, and the steering box has already been tightened up after having the sector shaft replaced, and rebuilt.

    So I agree, get a fattened up thanksgiving bud to hop into the truck and turn the wheel left to right while you look for excess movement on the underside.

    Have fun, and happy turkey day!

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  5. zakk

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    well it is not that the rancho did not work. it did not fit. the steering isn't sloppy. tie-rod ends are and idea as is the drag link. anyway to tell if i really do need to replace them or just go for it??

    -Zakk
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    for some reason the d60 is more prone to DW
    dual stabilizers is the band aid, the solution is usually tires
     
  7. HarryH3

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    Take it to a front end alignment shop and have them check the caster angle. If it isn't right, then the death wobble will kick in. It's just like the wheel on a shopping cart that goes crazy after its mount is bent. [​IMG]

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  8. zakk

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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    ok...i got used hummer tires &amp; they are bearly balanced. still saving up for 39.5 but need the x-over steering before that. I have no idea what "caster angle" is and do not pretend too. got a good explaination? i am all ears...[​IMG]

    -Zakk
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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    The shopping cart is the best way to illustrate caster angle. Even though we're guys we all have at least seen a shopping cart...OK some of us have only heard of them from our wives and GF's.[​IMG] Check one out and watch the front wheels as you push it. The front wheels always 'track' in the direction the cart is being pushed. Although a front diff is very different from a shopping cart the principle is the same. Caster angle is built into the axle at the knuckle and allows the truck to track down the road with no steering effort. As you lift a truck the diff is rotated slightly which effectively reduces your caster angle and can cause some squirrelyness (is that a word?[​IMG]) and also DW if the steering components are worn.

    Caster also helps return the steering wheel to center when coming out of a turn.

    Rene

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    thanks Rene...sounds like i need to take it to a shop to be checked

    BTW Rita (Mrs. Zakk) thinks your turtle is "cute" [​IMG]

    -Zakk
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    Now ya know why that turtle looks so 'stupid-happy'...the chicks love him.[​IMG]

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    even with caster set, and entirely new axle and steering components, my d60 suffered DW
     
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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    "suffered" past-tense would denote you cured it. how did you fix it in your case??

    -Zakk
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    well i hid the problem with dual stabilizers
    hoping losing the intercos will be a huge step
    will have to see if its gone when i finish current projects
    will not claim victory yet
     
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    Re: Death wobble, 4WPW, Steering Stablizer ?\'s

    Did you check the king pin bushings and also if you used a steering block make sure the bushing is down on the king pin the whole way and the round metal piece is in the block to hold it down.

    See <a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/Waynes-Toy>Project Mighty Mouse</a> here.
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