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death wobble blues...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by reeser, Oct 22, 2003.

  1. reeser

    reeser 1/2 ton status

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    ok so the death wobble on my ride has become unbearable. here's my plan of attack:
    -cross-over steering (this weekend hopefully)
    -steering stabilizer
    -new kingpin springs

    will this help fight the battle against DW? what other suggestions do ya'll have? i'm open to other ideas however cash is not real plentiful.
     
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    rjfguitar 3/4 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    Ask someone at pirate.
     
  3. reeser

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    please, let's not this get started. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    my steering box was causing mine. The sector shaft bearing was toast but it did not leak. You can turn the wheel and watch the shaft sway. I could jack the front end up and shake the wheels side to side with the truck running(ram assist)and holding the steering wheel straight.
     
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    well i know that my current box sucks, that's why i'm swapping a good 2 wheel drive box when i do the swap. currently the bolts that hold the steering box on the frame always loosen my box just really sucks. so it could be that the shaft is shot too. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    What axle are you running? 44, 60 ? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    i would say that if your box sucks and keeps backing out, that would be where i would start. And it wouldnt be out of the question if its been loose and such it could have thrown out the bearing.
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    What axle are you running? 44, 60 ? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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    If he's talking about kingpin springs, he's definitely talking a D60. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    60 front is affirmative
     
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    get a kingpin rebuild kit from ORD and install it while ur putting on ur x-over. Easy to do, and it'll prolly solve ur problem. If that doesnt help, forget about the steering stab, u need hydro assist. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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    how much $$$ we talkin??? i figured steering stablizer 'cause it's free!!! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Steering stabilizer help's alot! Mine had that trouble, so I opted for the stab. and it quit wobbling. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    A buddy of mine got new king pin springs and then put a small spacer on top of the spring to increase the preload a bit.This fixed his DW.

    I think hydro assist is the coolest fix /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Make sure your tie rod ends and drag link ends are good, replace the bushing and springs for the kingpins, check your caster. Mine doesn't wobble anymore and I don't run a stabilizer.
     
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    I installed 4-1/2" fender washers on each side to increase king pin spring preload. That killed the wobble dead. Total cost was about $3 I think.

    Rene
     
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    What size tire are you running?
    I have said before that the preload on the king pins needs to be measured for turning tourque. There has to be a base # we can start with to then increase the preload on the bearing and ELIMINATE the issue. Rock rams are good, as are stabilizers, as are everything else. However masking the issue will not help you.
    One way to solve the problem is to align the truck correctly, and set up the bearing prelaod according to the tire size you are running.
    I swear I will buy a 60 just so I can run diffrent tire sizes/preloads.
    I don't have any wobble in my 44 /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    right now there's some crusty old 36's on it but i'm mounting up my new 38.5's this weekend.

    do i even need to buy new springs, or just washers to compress my existing springs??? do i need to do the tops only or tops and bottoms. i think that the cross over with the new box will have the most affect on it.
     
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    Any looseness in the steering system will contribute to wobble. If its doing it now, with the 38s it will be unbareable. I do not know the spring measurement (hight/ft.lbs.) So I would say that Rene and others fix using fender washers would be your best bet if it indeed is still present once you get your box all sorted out.
    Cheap, safe, fix /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    would putting new springs + bushings and then some spacers help the most? the spring + bushings are like 12 bucks. i figure if i take it apart why not put it back together w/ new stuff. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     

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