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Depdog, need help (Rockers)

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by ftn96, Feb 13, 2001.

  1. ftn96

    ftn96 1/2 ton status

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    Dep, I sent you and E-mail but posting here case anyone else wants to contribute.

    I cut my rockers out this past weekend, fender well to fender well. The saws-all kicks ass. Anyway, Im planning on running a 3"x3" square tube/beam 54" long butted up behind the doors. The questiosn I have are that this beam/tube, am I going to have to have it fabbed somewhere or do you have any ideas where I can get something of this nature?
    #2 with the flare of the rear quarter, think it would be best to pull the quater in to meet it, or have the tube flare out to meet the quarter? Also thinking about using them as air tanks. Any ideas on this as well?

    thanks dog and those alike.



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  2. Burt4x4

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    I too am doing this. I found a local steel supplier that has everything!! They have a 3"x3" square tubing in three different thicknesses. I am gonna use the middle one, I forget the # but I still need to figure out how to mount it cuz I have the rockerboxes to work around so Deps way of mounting wont work for me. I have one rocker removed so i'm in the works......probably just gonna weld the sucker in and call it good to go! Hell I'm gonna bashum anyway so screw it!~~

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  3. ftn96

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    Yep, welding is the way Im going too. Looks like you finally get to use that welder for something after all. LOL!!!

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    Well I did the mod on a Cherokee (Unibody) of my buds and we welded it along the top (under the door) and accross the back and left drain holes on the back side. Been that way for 2 years and no problems yet. He pretty rough on it and I have seen him high lift it from the side and drop on some rocks pretty hard. No reason why it wouldn't work the same way with the rocker boxes. just cut off the outer rocker leave the inner in place and sand and paint it then weld all the way around.

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  5. Burt4x4

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    Yes and I am practicing my beads or just getting a bead to form I should say[​IMG]

    Grim I think your right sould be fine, i wasn't gonna worry about drain holes cuz I was gonna seal the tube up.
    Any way

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    Are there any disadvantages to using smaller tube?
    I am considering using 2x2, but must people go with a 3x3.

    Aluminum running boards, rock sliders, same thing.
     
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    I need to use 3x3 inorder to replace the distance from the top of my rocker then to or pass the bottom of my rockerboxes so that when I slide or slam on a rock it will hit the 3x3 and not the rockerboxes.....

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    Don't forget to take lots of pics. Maybe you can do a write up on it when you are done. Oh yea, one more thing. Don't forget to plug the welder in, the bead starts better that way. [​IMG]LOL[​IMG]

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    LOL!!, Like this rock here at work installed a new printer ink cartrige adn asked me why it wasnt working. He didn't take the shipping tap off of it.

    Anyway. I called Tennesse off-road. They want est. 300 bones for this. Too high. So I called a couple of welding shops. One place told me 16 bones for the material, 12 bones to cut it, then 45 and hours to weld it all together. Then I can use my uncles welder to attach it to the truck. this will be alot cheaper than 300. Besides that damn Tennessee off-road hole is a cest pool off Jeepers. They probably saw me coming and said hey heres someone we can take advantage of. The ones they sell for the jeeps are only 199. I cant see that much a difference. Besides, doing it myself is going to add up to be WAY cheaper than their price. Then I can install my own air fittings.

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    Another Quick Question:
    How many PSI can a setup like that take?

    Aluminum running boards, rock sliders, same thing.
     
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    Im just assuming here, but Im guessing about 50 psi per side. that would be enough to get me tires aired back up after a trail ride.

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    The whole point of these is to protect from below and the side. You want them to extend out some. A 3x3 is just about right. Mine are 4x4 but mine are set back farther than you will get it (I don't have inner rockers or rocker boxes anymore) and mine are part of the body structure now.
    As for what they will handle...mine are 4x4 3/16 wall and I run 140PSI in them. Thats enough to air four 32 inch tires from 20 to about 34 PSI. A tire has a large volume and the tanks don't so you have to be able to run a high PSI to get the tire up. I would not run more than 150 PSI max and before you hook it to your truck pressurize them, hide behind a brick wall and throw a 2 lb sledge at them a few times to make sure they hold.
    Also want to put a drain in them because they will get condinsation in them and you need to be able to drain them. My Drain is a 3/8's nut welded over a 3/8's hole all the way around and the bolt is the seal with some teflon tape.

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    Ok, Grimmy. Did you have to have them made or did you get the materials and make them yourself?

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    I'm a cheap bastard...I made them. I still have less than $3k in my truck with the original purchace price.
    Local place had the fitting bungs I needed for the air lines. Took a few tries to get the ends sealed and the bungs but they hold air for months. Last fill up was in december to 130psi. Passenger side still has 120 psi and driver has a leaked and down to 100.
    Got the 4x4 I used at a local steel suply place and I had the lengths already and had them make the cuts. I think it was $74 for 20ft including the extra cut retail. That was enough for the Nurfs and both bumpers. Now I got in good with the owner and he sells me at cost and let's me dig through his drop pile [​IMG]

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    Well, my problem is that I am no welder. So Im gonna have to have someone weld my materials together. Either way though, it looks like its still going to be way less than the 300 bones that Tn off-road wants for theres.

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    Here is a pic of my rocker
    I hope this works, I duno what i'm doing wrong for posting a pic, here goes
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    Have not gotten the email yet. On the rockers, I dont quite know what you mean about the tube/beam. I uses 2" x3" tube and got it at the local metal shop, I have 3"x3" here, but wanted the extra inch of ground clearance. I would reccomend the tube over I beam style if that is what you mean. On the flare in the rear, I pushed mine in to match the rockers and welded it down, then took those round rods that used to bolt to the fender lip to give it some support and cut them and bent them to the shape of the new fender and welded them on as a lip to give support.

    If you are going to use them as air tanks, weld up one end and then drill and tap or weld in a boss for the fitting, then clean it out very good and weld on the other end to seal it. Do this before installing them on the K5 makes it a lot easier to check for leaks.

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    Well, I meant a square tube verses a round tube. Thats all I mean by that. But the main thing I was looking for was where to get the tubes, verses making them. Say you have 3x3 there??? :) Interested in sending it this way?

    P.S. I sent the E-mail to a bellsouth.net address. Is that not current anymore? Anyway. It said the same thing.

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    3x3 tubing of almost any wall thickness is a very common size. We use miles of the stuff, any steel supply place will have some, its not even expensive. Just look for a place that also sells retail, you might have to call around some. Almost any place that will sell retail also offers a cutting service, for a fee of course, so bring your measurements with you.

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    The bellsouth is the new one. My last name is sometimes not fun to spell, still have not gotten it. viveiros@bellsouth.net is the addy though. It would cost you more to ship it than you could buy it for and for as long as its been sitting outside, the inside is quite rusty, the outside is coated in a gray paint, it is used stuff I got from a bud.

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