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diesel or FI?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BigOrange90Jimmy, Jan 30, 2003.

  1. BigOrange90Jimmy

    BigOrange90Jimmy 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    I'm thinking diesel. Sure it may weigh more, but I don't have any springs yet, so I can order them to support the extra weight. It's easier to deal with than FI, and a lot cheaper overall. Plus it should last forever and would give me PLENTY of power in the Toyota. What do you people think?
     
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    <font color="blue">EFI is easy, do that
     
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    Do I really need to voice an opinion? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    muddysub 1 ton suburban status Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    you had me right up to toyota...
    go diesel.
     
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    tarussell 1/2 ton status

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    ALL trucks should have Diesels in them !
    What motor are you thinking about and what kind of Toyota ?
     
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    tRustyK5 Big meanie Staff Member Super Moderator GMOTM Winner Author

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    Diesel...I just swapped my 350 for a 6.2. I love it./forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Rene
     
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    go diesel /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif like it was said, all motors should have diesel's....

    its for a toy huh, i know over in europe there huge on those little diesels. they've got them in j##p cheorokes and stuff. i toy with a diesel would be nice... what kind of a mill were you thinking of... maybe that cummins 4BT. it's the same as the 5.9 only smaller... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  9. BigOrange90Jimmy

    BigOrange90Jimmy 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    I was thinking of running the big ol' 6.2L. I was considering the 6.5L Turbo, but I don't think it's necessary. I would LOVE to have a 6BT Cummins, but I can't swing that much dinero. I do know that I want one without the EGR on it though....maybe someone on here can help me scrounge on up.
     
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    6.2 in a Toy would move out pretty good./forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif My 6.2 moves my 6300 lb Jimmy on 40's decently...

    Rene
     
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    BigOrange90Jimmy 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    That's what I was thinkin...and run it on out with the 465. I also wanted a diesel because the exhaust will be running through the flatbed up behind the cab with the little flapper valves on top and I want it to roll smoke when I lay into it. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif I love it when a diesel is idling and the flappers are sitting there tinking. Maybe it's a Southern thing... /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Naw dude it ain't just a southern thing I'm from Minnesota origanally and I think that's cool /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif
     
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    if you don't post pics when it's done, I'm gonna have to take a piece of Hick'ry to ya. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    BigOrange90Jimmy 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    Pics will be up...I'm going to put some of how it looks right now in a few days...
     
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    I've got the 465 behind my 6.2. I like the combo quite fine, and in low range and first gear it'll prolly smoke the clutch before it ever stalls.

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    Now with the 465 and the diesel, what kind of gear ratio should I run. I'm still leaning towards 4.56 with the 40's, but I'm not sure. I will have the Doubler in it as well, so that just confuses me even more. I almost thought of running 4.10's, but I think the wheelspin on the trail will be too much.
     
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    Nah it's not a southern thing cause I know a guy up here that did it with his 1 ton Dodge turbo-diesel sitting on 38's. Twin stacks through the bed with flappers. It's cool. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Ok, I'll be the dissenter of the group. I went from 6.2 to a TBI 350 for less weight, easier maintenance (I am no diesel mechanic, and don’t care to learn frankly), easier parts availability “on the road” (or trail). Plus, (IIRC, don’t remember the exact numbers) the typical SBC has more HP/Torque (albeit at a higher rpm) than most 6.2s so power to weight ratio is better as well. Add to that the 6.2 was defunct so I had to buy something either way, and the choice for me was pretty easy…
     
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    Peak numbers don't tell the whole story Russ. I find that the 6.2 gets the truck moving with so much less effort than the 350 needed. All out acceleration is a bit slower, but it's fast enough to deal with merging into traffic or whatever else I need to do. The fact I get double the mileage of the 350 sure doesn't hurt either.

    There are a couple hundred things less to go wrong with a 6.2 compared to a TBI 350 too...no dist, wires, plugs, no computer, no sensors. It's a pretty simple deal...

    Ash, I run the 465 with the 6.2 and 4.56's and 40's. I can cruise comfortably at 65 on the freeway, and even without the doubler the crawl is awesome!

    Rene
     
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    </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
    I went from 6.2 to a TBI 350

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    I'm doing the EXACT opposite... good thing we don't all think the same /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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    I almost thought of running 4.10's

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    This is what I will be doing - with 39's... with at least two t-cases. A Klune V or other planetary t-case in conjuction with a 205 will get you into 5.4:1 in double-low. And I think most of us have to spend some time on the highway to get to the wheeling spots.
     

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