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Do y'all think it'll really happen?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by ntsqd, Oct 6, 2004.

  1. ntsqd

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    Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    Note the last couple of words here.
     
  2. 84_Chevy_K10

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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    Who cares? My detroit works great!
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    I personally dont like air type lockers, seem like to much work to remember to flip the switch all the time when a regular detroit is strong and trouble free, plus I would hate to have to mess with all the air lines and compressors or such.My .02
    -Chris
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    That would be nice, someone needs to make a selectable locker for a 10.5" FF rear end.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

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    That would be nice, someone needs to make a selectable spool for a 10.5" FF rear end.

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  6. Okiemuddog

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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

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    Who cares? My detroit works great!

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    WTF is up with the suck ass attitude /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif.

    Some of us don't like having to fight our rig around a tight turn on a trail. He made a post asking a question, not to get your smart ass response. /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
  7. K5MONSTERCHEV

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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    Yeaaaaah...how long will that take?


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    I personally dont like air type lockers, seem like to much work to remember to flip the switch all the time when a regular detroit is strong and trouble free, plus I would hate to have to mess with all the air lines and compressors or such.My .02


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    And there a PITA to install. I dont care how many you may have done, there still a PITA!!! "Monkey Motion"


    Selectable, hell a detroits selectable:

    Unlocks-off the gas, under deceleration
    Locks-on the gas under acceleration
    DONE!
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    I might have to look into one, I am shopping for lockers for my D60 and would like to with a selectable set up /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    4WPW had an ad the other day that showed both the 9.5 and 10.5 14 bolts with an ARB option (each had their own price list and different prices). Just stirring it up, I don't think I would trade my detroit for one.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    I think a selectable would be good for up front just so you could turn easier.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

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    And there a PITA to install. I dont care how many you may have done, there still a PITA!!! "Monkey Motion"

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    This ain't an ARB, those can be a booger. This is like an OX, only with an air cylinder instead of a cable. Shouldn't be any different from any other 'normal' diff install until you get to putting on the cover.

    I'll put you down as a No. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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    Selectable, hell a detroits selectable:

    Unlocks-off the gas, under deceleration
    Locks-on the gas under acceleration
    DONE!

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    My Detroit locks on heavy deccel too. It only unlocks on modulated throttle or no power & little to no motion.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

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    Who cares? My detroit works great!

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    WTF is up with the suck ass attitude /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif.

    Some of us don't like having to fight our rig around a tight turn on a trail. He made a post asking a question, not to get your smart ass response. /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif

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    Don't take it the wrong way.

    I think it's great that they're offering a selectable spool

    I just don't understand how anyone can spend $800-1000 for a rear one instead of $400 for a Detroit.

    I turn my rig just fine with both axles locked in, not sure what your problem is on that one. I don't "fight" my 6,000 lb rig, I just drive.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    Selectable lockers are a nice idea, yes. So is a self flushing toilet. Are you missing out by not having either of them? not really. I am not saying the should be banned, or never bought.

    I think there is way to much speculation about auto-lockers than actual first hand experience. I have yet to hear "man I just hate my detroit I wish I had an ARB" I usually hear the opposite "after about a week I forgot it was back there." I have, on the other hand, heard people more than a few people cussing an ARB wishing for a detroit. That might be a dry as can be mostly rocks AZ thing too. take it for what it is worth. I am not speculating, I have driven trac-loc, open, welded, and now detroit. I am even thinking about a detroit for my tow rig/DD when I get one too.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    Hehe, how many times have we heard the question, "Are both tires turning?" from guys running ARBs? /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

    But in all fairness, they are nice when you need to make a really tight turn, or your off camber in soft stuff (like sand) and being locked makes you just plow straight ahead.
     
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    This ain't an ARB, those can be a booger. This is like an OX, only with an air cylinder instead of a cable. Shouldn't be any different from any other 'normal' diff install until you get to putting on the cover.



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    OHHH ok, the OX is a much better design/setup.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

    I personally dont care for the cover mounted actuator design.... Too many time I have seen a bashed cover so this would be in the way of possible damage.

    If it were me, I'd go with the tried and true design of an ARB over the OX or T-locker. If I can afford it when I do the axles in my Toy, it will have an ARB in the front.
     
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    Re: Do y\'all think it\'ll really happen?

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    Who cares? My detroit works great!

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    WTF is up with the suck ass attitude /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif.

    Some of us don't like having to fight our rig around a tight turn on a trail. He made a post asking a question, not to get your smart ass response. /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif

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    Don't take it the wrong way.

    I think it's great that they're offering a selectable spool

    I just don't understand how anyone can spend $800-1000 for a rear one instead of $400 for a Detroit.

    I turn my rig just fine with both axles locked in, not sure what your problem is on that one. I don't "fight" my 6,000 lb rig, I just drive.

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    Hey, why don't you do this: Find a guy with the same wheelbase truck as yours but with an open front. Measure the turning radius on your truck and his truck on loose dirt. Then you will see why I went with a selectable front locker. Also, get on a really off camber slab or something and try turning up hill with the front locked, you will go straight or go down.

    Oh and to my favorite comments everyone regurgitates "let off the gas and it unlocks". Umm, how many times have you been on the trail, needing to make a tight turn, and been off the gas? I know I haven't... It may work great for the street when you are making a left turn and have a green light already. What happens when your at a right turn and a red light? You are already stopped so you must accelerate to get around the corner eh?

    Bottom line, my detroit works fine for the rear but does cause undue stress on everything on the street and rocky trails when it's not needed. ARB in the front works absolutely perfect and shock loads from a stub or u-joint breaking won't destroy it like they do detroits.
     
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    Bottom line, my detroit works fine for the rear but does cause undue stress on everything on the street and rocky trails when it's not needed. ARB in the front works absolutely perfect and shock loads from a stub or u-joint breaking won't destroy it like they do detroits.

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    I fully agree. But locker selection is an opinion thing.
    What works for me doesn't for Tim. That just makes him wrong and me right. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
    Tim don't post things like who cares my detroit works great. He is asking a question and looking for input. That same statement could have been.
    I prefer my detroit over any selectable lockers for these reasons blah blah blah.
    See thats a nice respectable way to say things and your way is just being a complete A$$hole in most peoples opinion.
     
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    Bottom line, my detroit works fine for the rear but does cause undue stress on everything on the street and rocky trails when it's not needed. ARB in the front works absolutely perfect and shock loads from a stub or u-joint breaking won't destroy it like they do detroits.

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    I fully agree. But locker selection is an opinion thing.
    What works for me doesn't for Tim. That just makes him wrong and me right. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
    Tim don't post things like who cares my detroit works great. He is asking a question and looking for input. That same statement could have been.
    I prefer my detroit over any selectable lockers for these reasons blah blah blah.
    See thats a nice respectable way to say things and your way is just being a complete A$$hole in most peoples opinion.

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    I agree. I'm just so tired of all the speculation on 14 bolt selectable lockers. The design prohibits doing it inexpensively, the manufacturers know this, and that's why it's taken forever to offer an ARB or similar for a 14 bolt.
     
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    I have an idea! Maybe, if you want a selectable locker you should not put a 14b in! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     

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