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Echobit Shackel Flip a little too snug?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by TXsizeK5, Jan 21, 2003.

  1. TXsizeK5

    TXsizeK5 1/2 ton status

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    Well I have my EZ rides upfront and Echobit flips in the rear. Its alot softer upfrton but out back it seems harder... would the shackle flip being a little too snug do this by preventing articulation?
    Thanks,
    dC
     
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    IIRC, he gives torque specs of 60ftlbs. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    -Dan
     
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    The bolt that holds the flip bracket to the stock bracket must be snug - you don't want it loosening for any reason.
    The bolt that holds the shackle to the bracket should be a little loose for flex, whether you have a flip or not.
    -- Mike
     
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    sounds like your rear springs are too stiff.
     
  5. Sandman

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    I agree on checking the bolts. I think spec from GM is like 52 foot pounds or so. Seems that some people like to crank on them.
     
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    "The bolt that holds the flip bracket to the stock bracket must be snug - you don't want it loosening for any reason.
    The bolt that holds the shackle to the bracket should be a little loose for flex, whether you have a flip or not."

    What do you mean? You just said the same thing twice and contradicted yourself... or maybe i just odnt understand.
     
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    I think he meant that the spring to the bottom of Echobits bolt should be the looser one.
     
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    The upper bolt that holds the echobit flip bracket to the stock spring hanger(on the frame), should be tight. The lower bolt on the echobit flip bracket should be loose to allow the shackle to move.
     
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    I am talking about three seperate parts.
    1. The stock brakcet. It is riveted to the frame.
    2. The flip bracket. You buy this from echobit.
    3. The shackle. The originally bolts to the stock bracket on one side and the spring eye on the other. After the flip, it will bolt to the flip bracket on one side and the spring eye on the other.

    Sorry if I'm making it sounds complicated, but really it's not.
    -- Mike
     
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    Why don't you ask the guy that runs the place you bought them from?
     
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    I just found this thread. Two things to look for:

    1. Check your shackle brackets and make sure they are installed so the shackle mounting hole is placed 1" forward, and not 1" back. Having them 1" back will make the suspension feel stiffer with stock springs.
    2. The shackle flip bracket should be torqued down to 60 ft lbs to the stock shackle hanger but the bolt used to mount the shackle in the shackle flip bracket should not be real tight.

    Getting the shackle bolts tight enough that they don't come loose, and loose enough so as not to restrict shackle movement can be a balancing act sometimes. I only use nylock nuts on all my suspension components, especially the shackles.This way I can barely seat them and leave them loose without risk of them vibrating off.

    Were the stock shackles a tight fit to mount into the shackle flip bracket?

    Its hard to tell if you use a hi-lift to do one side at a time, which places a little twist on the leaf assembly durring installation and makes things install tight.

    Let me know what you find Derek. I'm always looking to improve on these brackets, perhaps you've run into something others haven't.

    - Mike
     

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