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Edelbrock off road needles and seats

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BizeeB65, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. BizeeB65

    BizeeB65 1/2 ton status

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    I am thinking of getting some of these needles and seats to try out first before I spend $350 on a Truck Avenger Carb. EFI is out of the question right now as $$ is limited. Anyone know if these needles are universal for Edelbrock carbs ? Do I need to change anything else on the carb to get better performance on angles? Thanks!
     
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    We all know nothing beats EFI bla, bla, bla. Having said that.... I use the off road kit and it works for me. I still am suprised at what kind of angles and rough stuff I run without probs. Also make sure your float level is set correctly while your in there.
     
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    Is there some other kit or just the needles and springs? I could only locate that on jegs and summit. Thanks.
     
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    Here's a copy of a pm Storm Trooper sent me regarding Edel-stalls. He uses the offroad needle & seat kit with an inline fuel regulator. He also set his floats a hair lower. Look at some of Dave's pictures and angles he takes with his 1406.

     
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    Slapperbar Retired Navy NDT Examiner Premium Member

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    7 deg. marine wedge under the carb. worked really well in Hawaii. Even on angles like this. 2nd pic is from the opposite side, same angle.
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    Far as I know that's it. And as others mentioned, fuel pressure adjusment. Sometimes I turn up the cowbell.:wink1:
     
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    I find that if I really explore the space with the cowbell..... I mean... Reccomend any particular fuel regulator?
     
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    Holley and other " name " companys make good ones, or use the crappy lookin little one from the performance aisle at checker or autozone. ( I have the cheapy, two years and still works ) Napa prob. has a decent one.
     
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    I did the off road needles this summer in my 1406 Edelbrock Performer. Here is some info. I had on the computer:

    SPECIAL CALIBRATIONS

    The preceding calibrations and adjustments apply to carburetors used in general street applications. In the following extreme instances, special calibration procedures may need to be followed.
    Off-Road

    Although the Edelbrock Performer Series carburetor was not calibrated with hill climbing and other extreme off-road operation in mind, it can be made to perform superbly by substituting Edelbrock #1465 spring loaded needle and seat for the original needle and seat. The spring loaded needle and seat act like a shock absorber, reducing the possibility of flooding during off-road operation. After installation of the new needle and seat you must reset the float level to 3/8" and drop the float drop to 1-1/4" as outlined in "FLOAT ADJUSTMENT".

    From this page: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/eps_sect2.html


    I was amazed at how much we had to move the float level from what it was. Seems to have helped, but still not all that great.



     
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    W E D G E !:wink1:
     
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    i have the edlebog 1406 and it was the crappyest thing to take off road. thought i would just check in to the off-road kit ($8 i think) instead of a new carb just for grins. now i have very little prob with any angles. just remember to block the cross connect on the bowls.
     
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    When i rebuilt my 1406 i used the offroad needle and seat. I used some 5/16" vacuum line i think to block the part that connected the bowls, i cut off what was sticking over if any with a razor. Ive seen some people use epoxy there too. I have yet to test my carb tho.
     
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    yeah i used rubber gas line too
     
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    Yes, install the offroad needle & seat kit and lower the floats. But definately, block the fuel crossover between the bowls. This will keep it running on side angles. Maybe not super clean, buit it will keep running. An Edelbrock tech told me to do this and it worked great for years.
     
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    i also have a edelbrock 1406 currently but have been looking into the truck avenger. i think i will try the new needle and seats and adjust the floats following edelbrocks website. my question is how do i block the fuel bowls crossover?where is it? i have never adjusted or fixed a carb before is it something a beginner can do?
     
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    I got my parts on order, so once they get here and I get it together I will post up on how it does, and assembly, so forth.
     
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    My truck is not bogging, it just plain shuts off when i hit a hard bump or same thing with the angles, it hates it! If it dies out on a hill it will take like 30 sec or turning over to get it to start again, i have a holly though, what can i do to mine to make it work better?
    Holley 600cfm
    Series # 4160
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    Is this an attempt at a thread hijack? :eek1:

    J/K man. Sounds like you might have a sticky float?? I would take the carb off and give it a good cleaning. You might wanna post up a new thread too... get more responses that way.
     
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    Yes, I had never opened a carb before I did this. It was so easy. Just unscrew the couple screws holding the top of the carb on and you'll see the fuel crossover. Plug it with epoxy or rubber hose. While it's in your hand, lower the floats to 7/16". Then, reassemble.
     
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    Me too, my summit order is on the way.
     

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