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Electric or hydraulic winch???

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by NITRO, Dec 29, 2002.

  1. NITRO

    NITRO 1/2 ton status

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    im lookin into getting a winch, but dont know which to choose. i have dual batteries. i was leaning towards the hydro since u can use it inderwater and it wont overheat. but, on the other hand, i plan on putting on hydro assist later on in the spring. whatkind of ps pump do u guys run that have hydro assist and a hydro winch?? also, do i hafta put something on my throttle to raise the rpm's when winching?? thanx

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    I've used my electric under water many times with no trouble. With dual batts, it would work good.
     
  3. NITRO

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    the other thing im worried about with an electric is it running my batteries completely out. i only have a stock alternator... so im kinda worried about that end of it too. i was thinking of getting that winch that is like $400 from superwinch. has n e one heard how good these work?? they are rated at 8000 lbs, and i think that would b good enuff for me

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    If your gonna use the winch for more than 4 minutes under full load then you might want to consider hydraulic. Problem with hydraulic is not only that the engine must remain running for it to work but winch speed is dependant on the pump you use. To gain full power from the hydraulic you might need to rig up a clutch system on a secondary sagniaw PS pump that has been modified to higher flow and GPM.

    Both are great systems when setup right. Truth is there is no right answer - you make up your mind what is better for you.
     
  5. NITRO

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    could i just skip hydro assist steering and modify my pump so i can use the hydralic??

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    You can use a stock pump but you might not be satisfied with the speed. You can mod the pump like this: http://www.off-road.com/~jweed/pwrstr.htm but be careful 'cause you can blow out the seals on the steering gears if you go to far. That is why I suggest a second mod'ed pump with a A/C cltch to engage it. Dont have details...
     
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    HEre's a little gotcha for those with Hydroboost who are thinking of going with a hydrualic winch. You can't sit with you foot on the brake to winch someone else out. As soon as you move the brake pedal MM's control valve dumps all pressure to the winch & gives it to the HB. My friend with a PSD Ford learned this the hard way.....
     
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    That certainly is a gotcha!

    IMO, you should be running a dedicated pump for a hydraulic winch. Might even be a chance of finding an SM465 with one attached /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

    I thought most PSD's used a vacuum brake booster /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    If I ran a hydraulic winch I would make a little frame and mount in a 2.5-3 hp small engine running a pump with quick connects. Wouldn't weigh much and you could pull your self out with a dead motor. Once you got out just unhook it roll up the hoses and your done, wouldn't take up much room.
     
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    If you decide to go hydro, IMO the best setup would be using something like this

    Also, with the MM, you might want to consider ditching there solenoids and valves and using something along like a manual valve setup.

    Try these guys winchesplus.com

    They are MM specialists.

    There is some GREAT info on them HERE Read all the way through this thread, I've emailed SEVERAL folks about this stuff and an starting to build up enough info for me to start buying parts for this.

    HTH

    KP
     
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    You might as well go electric. I have no idea how people get in there heads Hydros the way to go. Especially with a dual battery setup. I run a Warn 9000i with 525 cc amps. I did three pulls in a row and never even slowed down. Electric winches don't drain the battery that much.

    This is the way you have to look at it. The winch is your last line of defence.
    Your stuck, the engine floods the electric winch can still get you out.

    hydrolic winch- you have to worry about the drive belt, hoses, seals, fluid, running engine, and leaks.

    eletric winch- you have to worry about a battery

    You just do what makes you feel secure. Some poeple get hydrolic winches and they last forever without any problems.
     
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    Each one has one big weak spot. The power source. I look at this way. Its easier to hump back up a trail with a fresh 45lb. battery than a fresh engine block.
     
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    well, since i dont wanna run a dedicated pump just gor the winch along with the air compressor and things, i will b going electric. thanx alot for the info

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