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Electronic rust prevention

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by newyorkin, Aug 6, 2001.

  1. newyorkin

    newyorkin 1 ton status

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    Rampage, thanks for the reminder!

    I had a friend tell me about a device he installed in his 'burb that runs directly off the battery and supposedly prevents rust anywhere on the vehicle. He swore by it, said it even kept the rotors from rusting. He said it does something electrically, collect ions and keeps them away from the metal I think, that keeps all contacted metal from rusting. He's not one to exaggerate, so I'm certain this is not something made up. I may have the details wrong, but I know it's a device that runs off the battery and stops rust cold.

    Does anybody know what this thing is?

    I have no way to contact him, he just went upstate for a few months, and doesn't have computer access up there. He told me about it over IM, and I didn't save the window before closing it.


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  2. Cavalry

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    I believe what you are talking about is a "rust evader" found in JC whitney and the like. I bought one for my 98 so i cant really tell if they work or not. I did see one in a heep here in a junkyard in beautiful salty NY. The jeep was close to 20 years old, didn't look like it had been in the yard too long. No cancer on the whole thing(had rolled over) The Heep could have been from AZ or that thing just might work.

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  3. riz

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    <font color=purple> I'd like to know more about this item !!!!!!!

    L8r,
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  4. 84_Chevy_K10

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    I've seen some new cars that come with them, not sure if they work or not. Maybe they do, I'm sure someone with more knowledge on this subject can tell us.

    I'm just going to POR 15 the insides of all my body panels so I don't really think I'll need it. If it works I'll get it anyway though.

    Tim
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  5. newyorkin

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    Yeah, thanks man!!!

    www.jcwhitney.com, then go to "prevention".

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    I'm also very interested, but man that is a spendy mistake if it is a load of crap... OK where are all our Chemists and scientists on the list? LOL.

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  7. Skigirl

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    It looks promising in theory. I'm going to try to get the directions from them for more data, especially about the polymer coating part. I have used a similar setup to perform reverse electrolysis on rusted parts. Using a 5 gal. bucket, 2 lengths of rebar, 5% lye solution and a slow charge battery charger I remove rust from small metal parts and tools, size is only limited by container. Sounds like this rust prevention kit could operate on a similar principle. Anyone else have more info?
     
  8. ChevyCaGal

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    I posted about this a few months ago and most everyone said it wouldn't work... in fact I remember one post saying someone did a ton of rust repair for a guy who had one that swore it worked.... wish I could find now... but yeah it was the same set up that JCWhitney sells I was asking about...

    C'mon captain break pedal... quit looking for the parade and drive!! [​IMG]
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  9. Pugsley

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    We had setups like that installed on a couple of older fire engines at my old FD to keep the tanks from rusting - it was an expensive failure. There are little anode deals that you can attach to your body that supposedly work better than anything for a $10 investment, but I don't for the life of me remember who makes them[​IMG]

    Friggin Silt![​IMG]
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    chemist here, the theory is sound(it would take at least 2 semesters of general chemisty to explain in detail so lets just say that it is like a battery that keeps the metal charged so it dosn't convert to the oxide form) and they do use similar devises for other applications like ships and oil pipe lines that do work, but these devises are different from the ones in jcwhittney so i dunno if it works...
     
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    I have been told that all these were good for was to prevent aluminum from corriding, but I have never seen for myself.

    You call that dirty!?
     
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    Skigirl, can you post exactly what you do for that rust removal? It would be great to clean up the rotor, drums, pitman, knuckles, etc. before I try this device, maybe as an initial short-term test of it's performance. If you can get the instructions for this device, can you post that too?
    Chevycalgal, I really believe this thing would work. The guy I heard it from is a pro/expert in body work, and I trust his opinion for many reasons. He used to own a body shop, detailing company for dealers, etc, too.
    When I get the clearance from the Mrs. (or if you want to make donations to the Ratch-truck fund), I'll buy and test this thing out for y'all. If I can start it with clean rotors and drums, it shouldn't take long to see if the thing is working.

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    To remove rust electrolytically from parts, get a 5 gal plastic bucket with a top, 2 lengths of rebar, lye (from the grocery store in the clothes detergent section), baling wire, water, and a battery charger.

    Cut 2 holes in the top on each side, to hold lengths of rebar that will sit inside the bucket and stick out the top of the holes and attach to battery charger.

    Add a tablespoon or 2 of lye to water that you added to the bucket. Add the lye to the water, not water to lye. Lye can burn you in a concentrated form so take some care when handling it.

    Take some baling wire and wrap the piece you want de-rusted with it, so that it loosely surrounds it. Wrap one end of the baling wire to one of the pieces of rebar so there's a good connection.

    Then stick the rebar in the bucket with the top of the rebar thru the hole in the lid. Stick the other piece of rebar in the bucket and sit the lid on top (don't close it tight, just rest it there - it's just to hold the rebar up and separated from each other).

    Attach the positive battery charger cable to the free piece of rebar. Attach the negative battery charger cable to the rebar with your rusted piece on it. Turn the charger on and wait.

    It will bubble a little and when all is done, the de-rusted piece will be black. If you connected it to the wrong pieces of rebar, there won't be any bubbles and nothing will turn black.

    Turn the thing off, take out your piece, brush / wipe off the black stuff with a soft wire brush and if possible coat it with a little oil or something as they will be very prone to rust when they're removed. That's pretty much it.

    I found a couple links with some FAQs and someone else's experience with this. This technology has been around a long time and is very gentle with parts. Here's the links: http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/rust.htm and http://www.buchanan1.net/rust.html (sorry, don't know how to make them clickable).

    So there you go. BTW, the technique is called "electrolytic rust removal".
     
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    Here's the post I put up a few months about this thing and what was said about it. <a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=blazer4x4&amp;Number=137746&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;part=&amp;vc=1>http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=blazer4x4&amp;Number=137746&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;part=&amp;vc=1</a>

    C'mon captain break pedal... quit looking for the parade and drive!! [​IMG]
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