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Emissions may be a thing of the past

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by johnnieg, May 1, 2003.

  1. johnnieg

    johnnieg 1/2 ton status

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    Today's metro section says theay are considering shutting down the emissions program in El Paso county! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif death to the cat converter and emissions crap! /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
  2. dyeager535

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    death to the cat converter and emissions crap!

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    Ever wonder why there is emissions testing in the first place? Tearing that stuff off for no reason just helps screw the rest of us.
     
  3. alesko

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    Quote; Ever wonder why there are emissons in the first place?


    Yeah, just another reason for the politians to create revenue.
     
  4. dyeager535

    dyeager535 1 ton status Premium Member

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    Yeah, nothing like sitting in your closed garage with the vehicle running. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
  5. RATAH

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    Its Bull Sh*t
    Boats,Bike's,semi's Buses,Planes ect
    the rockets and all there Bull Sh*t
    dont have to be checked
    They piss me off,
    click here http://www.epa.state.oh.us/dapc/mobile.html
    to see all the bull we have to put
    up with in Ohio
     
  6. IronMan

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    It can't be worse than Cali.
     
  7. dyeager535

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    You think that bikes, boats, etc having to be 4 stroke engines isn't a result of smog regulation? They may not be inspected, but the increased cost of those vehicles would sure be a roundabout way of getting money for the government, wouldn't it? Sure, you get more money per vehicle sold, but you also decrease the amount of consumers.

    How about diesel emissions regulations for big rigs that are coming up, forcing re-designed engines? (next year??)

    Some inspection situations are the result of people indiscriminately taking their emissions equipment off. Once the inspections get started, it's VERY rare for them to stop, and even rarer for them to get any easier, even for older vehicles.

    I'm not saying crap like visual inspections are legit, or that it's NOT a way for the government to get money, but all you do by removing smog equipment is make us a target. If you think thats not true, ask yourself if you are in the minority or majority when it comes to wanting clean air, and thinking defeating emissions controls is a good way to go about business. When the "anti" forces can come up with numbers that scare people, or here you "bragging" about it, it's more fuel for the fire. It's all the more easy to pass these laws when you have ammo. If everyone hated them so much, it *could* be changed.

    Think about how emissions regulations FORCED the automakers to make high performance vehicles while still getting good mileage, AND burning cleaner! Look at GM's new V8's. More power than they've EVER made for their size (when corrected for net/SAE HP figures) with better mileage than ever, and lower emissions than ever.

    We'd still be driving 500CID Cadillacs that got 10MPG and be paying $1.70/gallon if the automakers didn't have something driving them to improve. The 70's and 80's were a horrid period of "stop-gap" emissions controls, but they were steps to what we have now. No comment on the vehicles the engines are put in though /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
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    There are also
    gas powered,bikes,boats ,ect
    i think if there gonna check 1 they should check em all
     
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    how sweet it is when that happens,
    /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    u have a daily driven boat?
     
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    If you don't want emissions testing you could always move to Michigan...
     
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    That kicks ass. I wish they'd do away with it here. I had a 92 Firebird that had a gutted cat, no AIR pump, and no smog pump. Somehow it passed within the legal emissions limits, but they failed it because it was missing emissions stuff! What kind of BS is that?
     
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    No doubt the regulations imposed on manufacturers have resulted in huge reductions in emissions while now actually having more horsepower and drivability. The same cannot be said for inspection programs, they have become just another self perpetuating government program swallowing our tax dollars. I remember some research from a couple of years ago that concluded that if you scrapped the inspection programs and their cost, and just did roadside tests while traffic drives by (the technology exists), stopping offenders and GIVING them new cars would be cheaper. Also, emission systems have become so complex, there is not really any danger of people removing them, with the exception of convertors. But by the same token, there is no reason to remove convertors because they are no longer a significant restriction like they were in the past. Lingenfelter twin turbo corvettes with 650 hp have convertors and all emmission equipment intact, I doubt any of our trucks will notice the difference.
     

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