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ever jumped the chain of command?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by jekbrown, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    at work I mean. I never did it in the grunts or in the civilian job world either... but something has come up and I ain't gonna look the other way. Yeah, thats about as vague as I can possibly make it... but thats fine. At any rate, I'm gonna go to the higher ups with a few issues. Anyone ever done it and had it end up really really bad? I'd rather not lose my job or be miserable at work for the next several years... :( Hard to keep things confidential/annoymous with something like this... my shop only has me and one other guy in it so its not like there is a long list of suspects or anything if "something is up" / rolling down hill from on-high... :(

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    Put yourself in the head honcho's position. Would you want to be confronted with this information, or prefer that employees let shady stuff slide?
     
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    Or is it something he would rather the employees work out among themselves?

    Is it a personality conflict or is he riding dirty as some put it.
     
  4. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    definitely not a personality conflict... major rule infraction... a couple of them. Its the kind of thing where if I was the 'big boss' and I found out about it, I'd fire the guy. Also, due to the nature of my job, this infraction is on tape and logged in a computer (not by me, its automatically done by "the system")... I can prove it in a court of law... so its no where near a "he said vs she said" kind of thing...

    I hear ya loud and clear TSGB... if I was the boss, I'd definitely want to know everything about something like this...

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    I think that post answered your question. It's documented, and a major infraction, light 'em up. :waytogo:

    Also, if you hold your tongue, there may be a chance you get put under the hammer too.
     
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    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    yeah, I've already talked to the other guy I work with... he'll definitely back me up if (when is more like it) a serious inquiry begins. He's a stand up guy. Of course, even if he didn't, I have iron-clad proof. :thinking:

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    Pretty vague so it's hard to say but unless there is a serrious safety issue or it somehow hurts you, my advice is keep your mouth shut. I do think we need more info.
     
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    I disagree. IIRC, there are laws to protect whistle blowers, too.
     
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    Jason are you still doing the armored car thing???????
     
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    I think in your company - if it hits the fan and turns out that you didn't tell - you'd get in plenty of trouble too.
     
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    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    I work for Wells Fargo, vault security... and it is a serious safety issue... about as serious as it gets.

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    Then quit focking around and get this taken care of...........
     
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    Well there you go. Sucks but I think you'll have to deal with it.
     
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    With the way you make it sound it is serious.

    Go talk to the boss.
     
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    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    the big boss' office is in a different state... I'm going to get my ducks in a row and call him on Friday. After all this is over, maybe I can be a little less vague. We'll see. I just want this **** to get fixed and be done with it.

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    A phone call would be more appropriate than an e-mail.
    Be sure to get all the information straight
    -who
    -what
    -when
    -where
    -how
    And write it all down. When you are on the phone with the boss he is surely going to ask questions. Having the information in writing and in front of you will make you better prepared to answer those questions.....thus making you more credible in the boss' eyes.
     
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    yeah, I'm definitely going to have stuff written down. Like I said before though, I don't really need to score credibility points... I can prove everything beyond any doubt.

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    I am not referring to how much "hard evidence" you have.

    Put yourself in the boss' shoes when he gets your call. How well informed and better composed you are will have an effect on how he persues the situation.

    In the end it should turn out the same way.....but it could get things rolling in a more timely manner.
    Hope that made more sense.
     
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    id definatley let any wrong doings be known to my boss, but do it as discretley as possible?
     
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    If they guy doing it is higher than you in your chain of command then you have to jump the chain.

    If you do not get any action from that person you go on to the next. I think you are required to take it up the chain. Regulations are there for a reason.

    Ira
     

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