well, after waiting 5 weeks for my "friend" to install my rollcage, I did it myself! I don't claim to be a welder, but I don't think I did that bad. I used the guys mig and all his shop equipment and did it in 2 days. I also fixed a section of frame I bent and split before. Now comes the task of putting this thing back together!! I seem to have plenty of time seeing as how I lost my job last friday!! your right. I don't understand the jeep thing!