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Firearms Refresher Course

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Z3PR, Jun 9, 2005.

  1. Z3PR

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    1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

    2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

    3. Glock: The original point and click interface.

    4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

    5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

    6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

    7. Free Men Do not ask permission to bear arms.

    8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.

    9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

    10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.

    11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

    12. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.

    13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

    14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and liberals.

    15. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety.

    16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

    17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

    18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

    19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.

    20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

    21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them..

    22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

    23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, don't make more.

    24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

    25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

    26. ".. A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."
     
  2. Resurrection_Joe

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    That isn't a refesher course, that's mostly silly propaganda or oversimplified thoughts
     
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    Why even reply with something like that?? I'm all for voicing your opinion on stuff, but whats the point of even replying to this post. You KNOW you will get flamed for it. This thread will be locked before the weeks over.

    If that was an attempt at humor, I apologize, but a Smiley face or some indication of humor is always appreciated.




    GOOD POST! :D
     
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    Ya know RJ, for a yongin, you sure are an opionated cuss. I enjoy your insights, but at times you sound very condescending to other posters.
     
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    5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

    I thought it was "If guns are outlawed, can we use chainsaws?"
    \\saw that on a bumper sticker
    \\\cracked me up
     
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    Only if you cross the boarder from Canada illeagly.
     
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    if anything is "oversimplified" its your response. Quote specific parts of his post and make a sane arguement on their merits and we can talk... otherwise your post is the only "propaganda" i see here...

    j
     
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    All I meant is that those quotes are mostly oversimplified and bumper sticker type sayings that I find distasteful. They are clever to a point, but then it gets fairly vapid.

    "You strap yourself into your car for safety, why can;t you strap on a gun"

    See, I thought of that in three seconds

    "Pack it in, pack it out"

    "For those in fear, a gun quite near"

    You know?

    I'd hate to throw words like "commercialization" and "trendy"

    It's really hard to explain without sounding arrogant

    Like George Carlin, it's funny for a while, but then... it's just silly.

    "Open Here? Where else am I going to open it" - Directions on the most easily accesable place

    Hmmmm

    I just feel the phrases are an indication of the short attention span logic that can sadly sway people on major issues

    I mean, I agree with all of them, but they are said in a silly way

    What if the manual for your computer said "Juice it up and pound the power and get ready for a super shocked thrill ride of powerocity" or a history teacher taught a lesson on WWII consisting of "Yeah, we went in and kicked some ass in a lot of places, broke some necks and stomped in faces"

    I guess I just find it "lowbrow", a tactic of the anti's "leftists" and casue groups
     
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    I was thinking about that today. A vast majority of the time, I feel normal here, and then out of the blue someone I like will yell at me and I'll be confused. I won't hide behind the fact that I really can't, because it must be true with the trend I see, but I really don't feel that way.

    If I am opinionated and condecending, it is not because I want or demand you to think like me, it's just because I want you to understand my viewpoint. If there is anything truly condecending in it, it is just that I think better of you.

    ...and as a reminder - "I CAN'T EXPLAIN MYSELF IF YOU DON'T ASK"

    I think Ratch understood my sway in that "easter" thing. I wasn't arguing, I just wanted him to understand my ideas.

    Now I sound like a whiney artist
     
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    "Benjamin Franklin, in his 1795 'Historical Review of Pennsylvania' wrote 'They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety'"... wonder if anybody told bush, ashcroft, or the american consutizen that.... :thinking:
     
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    its a sad fact, but your average person is actually pretty dumb. Its sort of the achillies heel of a democratic system. More than half the population is flat out stupid and/or ignorant... and yet they control the power to decide who runs everything. The best way to rectify the situation is to have someone who is a leader dumb down their ideas a bit... use slogans to spread them among the ignorant masses and convince them that their way is the right way. Both Komrade Klinton and Ronald Reagan were good at this sort of thing. Its basically required by our system. Its not a new invention, american politicians have been using bite-sized slogans for a couple of hundred years.

    sadly, that is probably about as much as you will learn about WWII in a public school. Everyone loves the quote "those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it"... and yet our public education system has absolutely failed miserably to educate kids about history in a way that gives them the tools not to repeat histories failings. Until I got to college I was never told/taught about the real causes of WWII, for example. If I wanted to know, I had to go learn about it myself. The public school version was basically, "germany and japan tried to take over the world, we beat them and a lot of people died." Ok, good to know... but it doesn't tell you jack about why germany and japan went on the offensive, how they subjected/woo'd their own populations to support their ideas or what we could have done to stop it. In other words, they don't tell you anything thats actually useful. If they did, people would never say anything as moronic as "violence never solves anything" etc.

    As stated, slogans/sound bites of this kind have been used by everything from communists to nazis and everything in between... "anti leftsist" (which I'd count my self as one) didn't invent this method and even if we did I'm not sure there is anything wrong with it. Short of getting rid of the democratic portion of our government, I can't think of a better way for "leader A" to sway the masses to his/her side. In a perfect world with a perfect electorate, everyone would be infinitely informed about the issues and presidential debates could be super-intellectual discussions of great substance. Unfortunately, most people are just to damn stupid / ignorant or short-attention-span'd for that to work.

    j
     
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    Good post Paul.

    John
     
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    Even more simplified would be the single childish emoticon
     
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    lol! Lets not confused "simple" and "bad"...if anything the opposite is true. For example, the tax code. So complex that no individual can possibly understand it all, even a tax lawyer...

    j
     
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    Simple, not in the sense of being streamlined or basic or utilitarian, simple in the sense of moronic, or ostentatious
     
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    Wow... I only have one thing to say about that....

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    I mean the website RJ, not you. =)
     
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    :bow: All hail the Mighty RJ, he has owned me on the interweb :yikes:

    John
     

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