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For all the Kerry Fans of the board........

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Jeremy_C, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. Jeremy_C

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    > This is excellent advice. Please do as instructed....

    If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

    If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night.
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  2. unclematty

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    you just want to pull them over for not using headlights after dark... right on! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
  3. backcountry

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    > This is excellent advice. Please do as instructed....

    If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

    If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night.
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    Jeremy,

    Are you one of those hypocrites that have your hand out taking all you can get from the government and want more but don’t support your own union that fights for your benefits, working conditions and salary??? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

    I am a firefighter and I know who supports my livelihood, how about you? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    http://firefightersforkerry.com/why/firefighterrecord.php

    http://daily.iaff.org/081104job.htm

    What is this??

    http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/interestg/ibpo051404.html

    http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0514.html

    One more!

    http://www.aflcio.org/
     
  4. Resurrection_Joe

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    Hey I know, let's vote based on a single issue and get totally [darn]!
     
  5. 1-ton

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    I cannot understand why people would be so passionate about supporting politicians that live very discriminatory, exclusive, selective, and elitist lives. These people want you to stay on the opposite side of the velvet rope. You are not their constituent. The only constituents they have are the people that donate 3 to 4 million dollars or more to their reelection campaigns because if they did not have this kind of money, they would not hold office. These politicians are not on your side, so why be on theirs?
     
  6. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    [ QUOTE ]
    > This is excellent advice. Please do as instructed....

    If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

    If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night.
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    That would be a fun worknight /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  7. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    Jeremy,

    Are you one of those hypocrites that have your hand out taking all you can get from the government and want more but don’t support your own union that fights for your benefits, working conditions and salary??? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

    I am a firefighter and I know who supports my livelihood, how about you? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    http://firefightersforkerry.com/why/firefighterrecord.php

    http://daily.iaff.org/081104job.htm

    What is this??

    http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/interestg/ibpo051404.html

    http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0514.html

    One more!

    http://www.aflcio.org/

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    Well well well, it's time for another round and I'm sure this is going to be fun.

    Let me start off by saying voting using just one issue is stupid.

    Let me continue by stating that unions are pretty much stupid.

    And I shall throw out that even when I was unfortunate enough to be a member of a union, all their crap that came in the mailbox usually wound up in the commode after wiping my a** since it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

    Now that is out of the way, there is no [darn] way that I would vote for that slimy, flip flopping, lying piece of garbage.

    So let's shoot this down real fast.

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    “I’m running for president to roll back George Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy so that we can invest in education and health care,”

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    I'm far from wealthy and I got a tax cut; how about you?

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    Kerry, of course, voted against the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. He voted against eliminating the marriage penalty a dozen times. In 1993, he voted twice for President Clinton’s budget plan, which raised taxes by a history-making $240 billion. In 1998 Kerry voted against requiring a super-majority to raise taxes. He voted no to across-the-board spending cuts in 1999. He’s been greedily at the trough with the best of them, voting at least five times to raid the Social Security trust fund.

    Charting out some highlights helps with the perspective:

    # 1989-90: Votes against considering a capitol gains tax cut.

    # 1993-94: Votes against spending reductions – an amendment to reduce budget spending by $94 billion. Votes for the largest tax increase in American history.

    # 1995-96: Votes against balancing the budget – a bipartisan plan to balance the books in seven years.

    # 1997-98: Votes against approving a GOP budget to cut spending and taxes. Votes against a balanced-budget constitutional amendment.

    # 1999-2000: Votes against reducing federal taxes by $792 billion over 10 years.

    # 2001: Votes against the Bush tax cut – a $1.35 trillion tax cut package to reduce income-tax rates, alleviate the “marriage penalty” and gradually repeal the estate tax. Votes to reduce Bush’s proposed tax cut ceiling by $448 billion over 10 years.

    Then in April of 2002, Kerry doubles back on himself, calling for a tax cut even larger than the one passed in 2001, telling CNN’s "Crossfire":

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    Now I may not think straight half the time, and I just had the feces scared out of me an hour ago by coming within 10 feet of a large bovine while running triple digits, but I don't see how the heck with a record like that a man can claim he supports us working families.

    Should I continue?

    Let me backtrack for a second. Let bash that IAFF mafia ring for a second.

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    Nothing matters more to America’s working families than good jobs that provide family-supporting wages and benefits.

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    Taken right from their waste of bandwidth. Let me tell you what matters to the working families that I know more than what IAFF claims. They matter about whether their kids and grandkids are going to have to grow up in a land where a bunch of third world sheep herders with misconceptions of virgins and status earn to blow up their school buses.

    I know there are some wives and husbands out there are worried if their spouses will become the target in an exercise practiced by these yahoos to kill cops.

    If the IAFF doesn't give two bits about the safety and security of this country, I've got a big, fat white a** they can kiss. They can go fight fires in Lower Slovenia for all I care.
     
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    The Mighty Union of the IAFF. Hah.

    My experience with the union is that they make it impossible to fire fat, incompetent, lazy firemen. In fact, they make it so that that fireman I just described gets the same union-approved time-on-the-job raises as the fireman who nusts his hump every day trying to be the best he can be. The union works for the union, period. The IAFF is a self-perpetuating monster.

    But, I guess as long as the union gets Kerry's support, they won't care about the rest of the country falling into moral and economic decay. Guess they won't care about a weaker national defense. I'll tell you what they will care about: Another 9/11, because it will happen, and only a guy like Bush has the balls to strike back hard and heavy without permission from the French. Kerry will just try to negotiate and diplomatically say mean things about the perpetrators.

    Man you union guys are a bunch of dummys...
     
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    Now I remember why I missed you /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
     
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    Man you union guys are a bunch of dummys...

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    I agree.
    How many unions have actually cost jobs because they make it impossible for the companys that must deal with them stay profitable? Show me a f'ng forklift operator worth $20-$25 an hour + full benefits. Unions are out for one thing-themselves. Show me a Democrat that doesn't think he/she knows well better than you how you should live your life. Look at all the special interest groups that Kerry has jumped in bed with, or vice versa. They certainly don't have the best interests of the average American high on their agenda. As long as their own interests are served, to Hell with the majority of Americans. Makes me sick to hear blind ideology /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

    John
     
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    No offense to firefighters, but I'm tired of hearing about thier problems and political issues being treated like they're more important than mine.
    And it kinda pisses me off that I sold my truck because I can't afford the gas, but several guys at the volunteer FD use FD-owned 1/2 ton trucks (the kind I drool over) for all personal stuff instead of thier own cars because they don't have to pay for the gas. I was particularly perturbed watching a FD truck towing a guys boat down to the shore. My (non-volunteer) mother in law, and almost her entire company, has this same corrupt mentality, and she actually thinks of it as entitlement, like she deserves to pawn off her pleasure expenses to the community. That s**t sends me through the roof when I see my tax bill breakdown and how much money the local FD's get.

    No offense to anyone, I know there are some pretty stout FF's, and most of them are great guys, and I'm not knocking all firefighters, just the ones that think thier noble career choice makes them better or more valuable than everyone else. I'm just getting tired of hearing about firefighters like none can ever do any wrong, and crazy demands in the face of mismanaged prior funding.
     
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    How many unions have actually cost jobs because they make it impossible for the companys that must deal with them stay profitable?

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    Excellent point. I wonder how much effect unions had on pushing all these jobs overseas.

    I see purpose in the union where it has purpose. Once a union starts making unrealistic demands to protect unqualified workers, that union has become an extortion agency.
     
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    I agree with all these posts, unions are for lazy f*ckers who don't want to have to perform to keep their jobs.

    It's just an acceptable form of communism/socialism in our society. Job security (just like everything else) should be based on merit and merit alone, if you can't cut it, screw you go work somewhere else.
     
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    That's suprising to hear an LEO not be for unions. I know without our union (NBPC) we'd be screwed. When it comes to frivilous lawsuits for civil rights violations the Government gives us no backing and leaves us out to dry. I agree some unions abuse their power but they still have their uses.

    If Bush is re-elected I hope his policies and intel overseas take care of the terrorism problem because he's allowing Ridge and Bonner to gut the Border Patrol. If anything border security is getting worse not better.

    Here's a good quote from a fellow agent
    " The situation for the Border Patrol under the DHS is far worse than it was under the INS. Incompetence has finally gone unrestrained."
     
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    unions used to be a good idea when employees were regularly beaten if they didn't work hard enough on their 12 hr shifts... now they are pretty much just extortionists who use their money/power to buy left wingers in political position to give them more power.

    its absolute and utter bullcrap how some of the big unions take hard-earned dollars from their members and then give it to political candidates who the individual member don't support. I don't care which side of the political spectrum you're on, I'd like to see someone morally defend that practice. Also, there are some places where you HAVE to be a union member in order to work there... that is also indefensible bullcrap.

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    The seccond someone mentions the word "union" in defence of thier opinon, pretty much shots their entire point - right in the foot.
     
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    If Bush is re-elected I hope his policies and intel overseas take care of the terrorism problem because he's allowing Ridge and Bonner to gut the Border Patrol. If anything border security is getting worse not better.




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    I support G.W.Bush as far as the war is concerned, but I also think that the war should include bringing the military to bare in shoring up our borders, it really infuriates me when I think of the condition of our border patrol. It is in trouble and the goverment is not doing anything about it, I don't mind if people come to this country legally, but I live next door to some of the nicest mexican people I've ever met, but they keep letting peple stay with them, semi-temporarly, and after talking to the people that own the place I find that they are being paid to put these people up cause they are here illegally and our neighbor hood is relativly quiet so no one suspects, James, I think you have one of the worst jobs cause you have to do the most with the least, kinda sounds like the military, not to mention, you do it with your hands tied /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    > This is excellent advice. Please do as instructed....

    If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

    If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night.
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    Trying to be as un-biased as I can possibly be.

    John Karry is a snake. Every word I've heard from him - just seems to hit me as if he'll say, do, pretend, or lie about anything - inorder to gain power. The guy just ozes scum. I've tried to shake the feeling, I realy have.
    But Karry just creeps me out.

    Bush on the other hand, strikes me as someone who has bitten off more than he can chew - fairly un prepaired for what laid ahead of him (which, admitanly, was rather significant). Allthough, I think he has done a a pretty good job, considering the situation. When Bush is NOT being a politian - I get the feeling the guy loves his country and belives that he his doing what he feels to be for the best of the country. That is, when he is NOT being a polition.
     

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