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For those of you who have 56 fronts

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by sandawgk5, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. sandawgk5

    sandawgk5 3/4 ton status

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    I am looking to do this and I know how I am gonna do it but I want to flip the springs around and push the front forward. Has anyone had issues with steering box contact or problems with crossover?

    Thanks

    Ira
     
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    There is no flipping around with 56's up front.
    If you were to flip them around it would just push your axle back.
    Normal way and it will go froward just like the 52's.

    All you need to do to fit them is move the front brackets in front of the body mounts.
    You dont have to re-locate the rear shackle at all.
     
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    Ok I thought that if you put the short side forward it would move the front axle farther forward than with 52s. Guess I was wrong. So 56s fit just like 52s just the extra 4" correct for ****ty shackle angle.

    Ira
     
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    With my front axle moved as far forward as possible (4.5") the pitman arm sits right between the U-bolt nuts. This is a bad thing if you don't have a lot of lift.
     
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    Define "a lot"...I'm thinking about running stock 56's and a zero rate.
     
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    cybersniper moved his axle 4.5" forward, if your running stock 56's, it only move the axle forward 2"
     
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    ...and with a zero rate set up it'll be 3.5, I mean how much lift, stock 56's?
     
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    I plan on running 4" of lift I would like to stay away from zero rates if at all possible and was hoping I could get 4" forward of stock. I am trying to get my wheelbase out to 114-115 as well as help out approach and departure angles.

    Ira
     
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    if you want to go 4" forward then your going to have to make custom front mounts, or get custom springs made.
     
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    I'm running stock 56s. It barely has 4" of lift.

    I moved the hanger as far forward as possible (roughly 7.5"). This moved my axle forward ~4.5".

    With a Superlift 1104 pitman arm, with the springs flat, the pitman arm barely doesn't get caught between the two U-bolt nuts on the spring plate. This is with the U-bolts cut flush with the nuts. Looking straight down on the vehicle the TRE is right between the nuts when the steering is centered.

    I have the rear axle moved back ~3". This is about as far as you can go without hitting the gas tank. This pretty much limits you to 113" of wheelbase.
     
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    That sucks. I guess I will get what I can and cut the rest off:D.

    Ira
     
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    Nah, it's not really necessary to go any further unless you plan on running competitions, methinks.

    I have less than 10" of front overhang and less than 18" of rear overhang. The rear bumper is 37" off the ground. It's got a flat belly. My plan is to move the rear 64s under the frame, run another 1-2" of lift, put 44s on it, and put a Chevy 60 in the rear. It'll do anything I need it to do yet still be street legal unlike a buggy. This thing turns so much better than my longbox pickup and the "no corners" on it really helps. But it's still not enough for the really tight trails we've got around here (skidder trails turned into ATV trails) and 4 wheel steering should take care of that. I just need to find a 4.3L and come up with the money for some Longfields for the rear axle.

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    Ya it is prolly not necessary but a boy can dream:D . If I had the tools time and money it would be linked front and rear, prolly run an ORD/FOX tube chassis? 4 seater of course:D . Here is how she looks right now.
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    Tomorrow Roz and I start the teardown to put 4 inches, 1-tons, and 37 MTRs:D .

    Ira
     
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    Why wait for tomorrow, Start tonight:D
     
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    Got the front end gutted Yesterday. Still gotta finish puttin in the ORD weld in brace and then bolt up the 2wd box and I will be ready to put the front back together. My ORD order just posted on my CC so I should be getting it Tomorrow:D . If everything goes right I hope to be back on the road by this weekend. Then we gotta hit Corral Canyon for a test run.

    Ira
     

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