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Ford 9" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by az88k5, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. az88k5

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    Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    Anyone done this ever on a K5? Looking for some info. Currently have 10bolts front and Rear 3.73's. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

    A Ford 9" is not of sufficient size to even be worth swapping into a fullsize rig in my opinion.
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

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    A Ford 9" is not of sufficient size to even be worth swapping into a fullsize rig in my opinion.

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    You don't think a ford 9" is stronger than a GM 10Bolt or 12Bolt? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

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    A Ford 9" is not of sufficient size to even be worth swapping into a fullsize rig in my opinion.

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    You don't think a ford 9" is stronger than a GM 10Bolt or 12Bolt? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif

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    It is stronger, but not sufficiently stronger that I'd unbolt a GM 10 or 12 bolt and bolt in a 9".
     
  5. az88k5

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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

    What about this. Keep the 10 Bolt front, installing crossover steering. Then swapping the rear 10Bolt for a Ford 9" vs. the GM 14Bolt. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

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    What about this. Keep the 10 Bolt front, installing crossover steering. Then swapping the rear 10Bolt for a Ford 9" vs. the GM 14Bolt. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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    Once again, a 9" is not sufficiently strong to hold up to the abuse that a fullsize rig is capable of putting to it.

    Just get a 14 bolt. They're like a 9" on steroids, MUCH stronger due to design, and they'll take 40"+ tires without a problem.

    If a Ford 9" was that great I would have had one a long time ago....but they're NOT.
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap W/Lockers & Crossover Steering!

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    What about this. Keep the 10 Bolt front, installing crossover steering. Then swapping the rear 10Bolt for a Ford 9" vs. the GM 14Bolt. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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    Once again, a 9" is not sufficiently strong to hold up to the abuse that a fullsize rig is capable of putting to it.

    Just get a 14 bolt. They're like a 9" on steroids, MUCH stronger due to design, and they'll take without a problem.

    If a Ford 9" was that great I would have had one a long time ago....but they're NOT.

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    I don't really need 40"+ tires but that's cool. A shaved 14 Bolt would be nice. /forums/images/graemlins/woot.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    I wouldn't do it for the front, that's just way too overboard in the custom bling bling factor, not to mention I think those custom fronts are big money.

    As for the rear, go for it. The 9" is a pretty nice setup and the aftermarket is solidly behind.

    As for the negative comments already made in this thread, just a bunch of clueless dumbass comments for ya. Take them for what they are worth. There's a good reason why a lot of racers (street, off-road, what have ya) have rearends based on the 9". That should tell ya something.

    By the way, have anymore questions on this, go for it. I'm swapping to a 9 in my K5.
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    Can't you do a cheap junkyard disc brake conversion on the 9 inch using late 70's Lincoln parts ? There is even a narrow 9 inch with discs in the Lincoln Versailles ( think Granada/fairmont chassis aka fox chassis ) for S-10 and Cherokee types . I am a Chevy guy , but came from cars where a 9 inch isn't inconceivable in sub 11 second cars , hell I remember companies selling them with a-body brackets on them .......I just thumnbed through a 2 year Hot Rod , they still do /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    the lincoln granada monarch was not a Fox chassis
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

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    As for the negative comments already made in this thread, just a bunch of clueless dumbass comments for ya. Take them for what they are worth. There's a good reason why a lot of racers (street, off-road, what have ya) have rearends based on the 9". That should tell ya something.

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    Yeah, semi floating axles sure are strong. I should figure out how to build a semi floating front axle. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    there are many offroaders using ford 9s in the rear of their trucks. This is true for rocks and even prerunners. The aftermarket [i.e. Currie Enterprises] can outfit you with a rear with your spring perches already where you need them, disk brakes, full floater conversion, locker, and even chromo shafts!
    The cost?

    It would be cool to find one of those lincolns with a ford nine and disks already in it though. And it would be way cheaper, not to mention the abuse factor was probably not even bugging a car.
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    Does anyone know the diameter of a 31 spline Ford 9" axleshaft?
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    Tim not everyone wants to run 40s. If I were going to build a rig on like 35s or maybe even 37s I'd seriouslly look at if not only look at a 9". 10 bolt and 12 bolt suck.
     
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    10 bolt and 12 bolt suck.

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    On what grounds? C clips?
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    c clips and 9" aftermarket is more extensive
     
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    c clips and 9" aftermarket is more extensive

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    I can't imagine why you'd need anything aftermarket to run a set of 35-37" tires. 10 bolt/14 bolt would work just fine.
     
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    the lincoln granada monarch was not a Fox chassis


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    I am not really up on Furd's , but I remember the frontends of the fairmont was the same as Mustangs . Anyway here is a list from some people who know more than I http://www.coolcats.net/tech/reference/foxcars.html :

    FORD FAIRMONT 1978-83 (105.5" wheelbase; 2-door, 4-door, station wagon)
    MERCURY ZEPHYR 1978-83 (105.5" wheelbase; Z-7 coupe, Villager wagon)
    FORD FAIRMONT FUTURA 1979-82 (105.5" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    FORD MUSTANG 1979-93 (100.4" wheelbase; 3-door hatchback, 2-door coupe)
    MERCURY CAPRI 1979-86 (100.4" wheelbase; 3-door hatchback, 2-door coupe)
    FORD GRANADA 1980-82 (105.5" wheelbase; 2-door, 4-door, station wagon)
    MERCURY COUGAR 1980-82 (108.2" wheelbase; 2-door, 4-door, station wagon)
    FORD THUNDERBIRD 1980-82 (108.2" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    FORD LTD 1982-85 (105.6" wheelbase; 4-door, station wagon)
    MERCURY MARQUIS 1982-85 (105.6" wheelbase; 4-door, station wagon)
    LINCOLN CONTINENTAL 1982-87 (112.0" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    MERCURY COUGAR 1983-86 (103.8" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    FORD THUNDERBIRD 1983-86 (103.8" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    LINCOLN MARK VII 1984-92 (112.0" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    MERCURY COUGAR 1987-88 (104.2" wheelbase; 2-door only)
    FORD THUNDERBIRD 1987-88 (104.2" wheelbase; 2-door only)
     
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    Re: Ford 9\" Front & Rear Swap w/Crossover Steering!

    unless you didn't want the weight and low ground clearance of a 14 bolt. A Shaved 9" is a few more inches ground clearance even compared to a shaved 14 bolt.
     
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    unless you didn't want the weight and low ground clearance of a 14 bolt. A Shaved 9" is a few more inches ground clearance even compared to a shaved 14 bolt.

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    When I ran 35s I ran a 14 SF. Stronger than all but the most pimped out 9" axles and cost me exactly nothing. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     

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