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Frame Crack

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 2High4U, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. 2High4U

    2High4U 1/2 ton status

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    Well I knew it was cracked but... DAMN!:angry1:
    this things is so screwed im left to find a whole drivers side frame rail or at least one I can cut out.

    Ill post pics up later it must have been wrecked in the past for this much damage.

    Ill post up some pictures soon... I dont have my camera with me at the moment


    the holes where the steering box are were built back up and there are cracks and the inside of the rail looks like it was peiced together very badly.
     
  2. gmc4cw

    gmc4cw 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    anything is fixable. Its simply an excuse to upgrade. you should have seen mine. The picture doesn't do it justice. If you want to see how I fixed it I have those pics too. I am close to you so if you need any help just let me know. I might still have the template for that section of frame.

    steering repair 1.JPG
     
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    ryoken Puppy Fabricator Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    I've got a good condition 77 frame you can have at the Jersey shore...
     
  4. 2High4U

    2High4U 1/2 ton status

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    my picture isnt going to do the justice either because it was built back up but very poorly. obviously the welder who welded this thing did a crappy job didnt even penatrate in most spots.

    its bent and twisted the mounts for the sway bar a rigged and out of line. its no wonder this thing never steered right.


    Are the 77 frames the same as the 73 frames?

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  5. gmc4cw

    gmc4cw 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I made this. It's 3/8 plate. the standouts are 1-1/2 in diameter. this is so much overkill it's almost dumb.:D

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    gmc4cw 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    then I took a 1-5/8 hole saw to the frame and removed the factory standouts.

    steering repair 2.JPG
     
  7. 84 K5 4x4

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    Good work I like it.
     
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    Damn 2High4U....who did the welding inside of your frame rail?
    If it was you, grind it off and try again.
    If not then smack the hell out of whoever did it and file a restraining order between them and anything that could be used as a welder......WOW
     
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    dremu Officious Thread Derailer Premium Member

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    Yes. In front they should all (73-91) be identical, but 73-77 are the same front-to-back.

    -- A
     
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    Slapperbar Retired Navy NDT Examiner Premium Member

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    I see boogers...
     
  11. Chrisblazzer89

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    Do you have measurements for that I would love to do that to my truck
     
  12. gmc4cw

    gmc4cw 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I'll post the rest of the pictures when I get home. As for measurements, NO. Thats a one of a kind. I went from the torn up frame to the box bolted back on in a day. I could have bought the weld on patch but it wouldn't have fixed there holes where the box bolts up. If your frame isn't broke yet just buy the weld on patch and brace.

    With this type of repair I can't use the ORD brace. Doesn't really matter though. For the box to come off again I will have to rip 1-1/2 feet out of the frame. the patch goes from the spring hanger to the engine mount.

    I had to trim the front crossmember to make it all work. thats after I had to take it completely out to make the patch. this repair requires significantly more work then the mainstream stuff.
     
  13. 2High4U

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    Im new to welding but i guarantee i could do a way better job than whoever did that. Like i said before most if not all of the welds didnt even penetrate.:doah:

    that looks bad arse!


    I have another question...

    If i were to cut out the vin off of my old frame and put it on a another one would that raise questions with dot?
     
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    Don't bother. The vin on the cab is what is important. thats what a cop or inspection mechanic are going to check. Most truck frames in this area you can't read the vin anymore due to rust.

    I have a spare shortbed frame if you want to build a truck instead.
     
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    thanks for the offer but I seem to have my hands full with this project.
    I have a long way to go to get this thing back together again hehe.

    I have plans on buying another 73 down the road tho for $400 that im going to make offroad only.

    The reason I asked about the vin was because i remembered someone taking theirs to an inspection station and them needing the one off the frame.
    I think it was BrandonC.

    I suppose i could grind it off and say its not there anymore.
     
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    The frame VIN is partial, and is behind the rocker boxes on 73-75's, fwiw. It's about parallel with the transfer case skip plate.

    Heh, just looked at mine, and it doesn't match the VIN at all. It's marked "21 9 8 73", which one would interpret as being sometime in '73, correct for a '74 ... maybe mine had its frame swapped with another '74? Would seem like a LOT of work.

    Anyway, if you're trying to fix steering box frame carnage, you could just replace the driver's front horn and call it good?

    -- A
     
  17. gmc4cw

    gmc4cw 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    finally got on here from home where I have all my pictures. here is the patch in the frame. basically I welded around the standouts. welded in all the factory holes. and ran welds along the back. The truck frame is one huge chunk of steel now.

    steering repair 3.JPG
     
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    Im a newbie welder, and my welds look better than that.

    Even when it is boogerish, why isnt it ground down? If they ground it down, they probably would have found that they never melted the base metal. lol...
     
  19. gmc4cw

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    I had the steering box of so I snapped some more pics. these pics are after the welding. every hole was plug welded. the standouts were welded around. I have had it out 3 times since this. nothing has loosened up. I had to get out the breaker bar to get the box off. I used red loc-tite on the bolts.

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    wow that looks great....
     

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